[access-uk] Re: Is 3d Dymo OK as alternative to braille 1 and 0 for testing?
- From: "Dave Taylor" <dave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 17:19:03 +0100
Yes, the system that would need to be learned is what on earth they mean.
Using two digits to mean various other numbers would be very confusing. Most
people can see enough to read print, or if not, then they almost all use
braille. Dymo is very quick to do and just as easy as in print. Ordinary
print dymo is also very hard to feel, even for such basic shapes. Raised
print needs to be much larger than that, even for basic shapes.Also, people
would not be able to tell which way up your system was to know which way
round to read the number as both shapes are identical in each direction. If
the unit is to be accessible to people who can't read print, whatever it is,
it needs audible or tactile feedback anyway!
-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Jonathan
Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 12:45 PM
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Is 3d Dymo OK as alternative to braille 1 and 0 for
testing?
Not sure what you mean by "recording system" - if you mean "reporting
system", it was just a backup idea so anyone phoning the "help I'm
stuck" number which IS in Braille, would be easily able to tell which
unit it was.
I also believed that most people with a visual impairment had
developed it later in life, so would know that a zero is a circular
shape, and a 1 is a vertical bar. Therefore, if I said "there is a tag
with 4 raised non-braille representatives of the numbers 0 and 1 on
the back", I thought that might help.
If you are saying that these shapes would require "learning an entire
new system", then that's a different matter.
On 30 June 2010 12:15, Dave Taylor <dave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> No. This would require learning an entire new system. Find a recording
> system that doesn't require the person to read a number off a product. Or
do
> your own braille with a Braille Labeller from RNIB. They are not exactly
> expensive!
>
> Cheers
> Dave
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of
> Jonathan
> Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 11:27 AM
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Is 3d Dymo OK as alternative to braille 1 and 0 for
> testing?
>
> I want to send out some items for test.
> There are a slightly different variants of the item, so I'd like to
> put a serial number on the back so if someone phones to report a
> problem, question or suggestion, I can lookup which item it was.
> There are less than 12, so not worth getting braille sheets made up.
> I have this Dymo 3d labeller, the imprint is quite tactile and well
> spaced. Would people generally find it acceptable to have a Dymo
> sticker with:
>
> 1 0 1 0 for serial number 10.
> 1 1 1 0 for serial number 13 etc
>
> Not that it matters that it's binary, but this would allow me 16
> distinct numbers, and to a non-braille person like me, those two
> numbers felt distinctively different.
>
> Just trying to gauge a group opinion on a quick temporary solution to
> a simple problem without annoying potential testers!
>
> Thank you!
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