Thanks Andy - guess that sound about right as my old Ipod use to run for about 12 hours on full charge - Andy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy" <andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, August 29, 2008 6:34 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Ipod or mp3 recommendations please | Andy. | | I believe that three hours on the USB or wall-plug, if you have the adapter, | amounts to 11 hours of playing. I may be wrong or a little bit out, but not | by much. | ----- Original Message ----- | From: "Andy Collins" <andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> | To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> | Sent: Friday, August 29, 2008 5:29 PM | Subject: [access-uk] Re: Ipod or mp3 recommendations pleaseh. | | | | | | > Just in addition to my last message about charging the Zen Stone, what | > kind | > of battery life does the player have from a single charge? | > | > Thanks - | > | > Andy | > ----- Original Message ----- | > From: "Andy Collins" <andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> | > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> | > Sent: Friday, August 29, 2008 4:32 PM | > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Ipod or mp3 recommendations please | > | > | > | Hi all - | > | | > | Thanks to all that gave me feedback regarding the Zenstone players, and | > to | > | Andy for his offer. I understand they can be charged using a USB cable, | > am | > I | > | right to think that the cable will be unique to the Zen Stone? I find | > that | > | the minin USB cables I have for 2 mobile phones are quite different, and | > not | > | interchangeable! I'm wondering then if I want to charge the Zen Stone | > away | > | from a PC, if I'll have to buy yet another wall plug to mini USB cable; | > seem | > | to be aquiring quite a lot of these things recently <smile> - | > | | > | Andy | > | ----- Original Message ----- | > | From: "Andy" <andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> | > | To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> | > | Sent: Friday, August 29, 2008 1:18 AM | > | Subject: [access-uk] Re: Ipod or mp3 recommendations please | > | | > | | > || Hi Andy. | > || | > || I own five Zenstone mp3 players. I've distributed them amongst friends | > in | > || my community, mostly elderly, and furnish them with books, movies and | > | music, | > || and everyone finks them fantastic. | > || | > || | > || I'm actually listening to a book at this moment, which I started last | > | night. | > || Occasionally, I have to turn the device off, to attend to other things, | > | but | > || when I return, often after a couple of ours, the book or movie is | > opened | > | at | > || the space in which I closed it. | > || | > || | > || | > || There are a couple of Zenstone players. I have four 1 gb players and | > one | > | 2 | > || gb player, which happens to have two little round speakers on it. This | > | cost | > || about £39 and the 1 GB cost about £29, but all are fabulous machines. | > I | > | can | > || send you one to try out for a week or so if you are afraid to make a | > || purchase, so Andy just let me know and I'd be pleased to let you have a | > go | > || with one. | > || I'd recommend the Zenstone as it's so simple and of course all you need | > to | > || do to charge it up is plug it into your computer. | > || A few weeks ago Steve advised me that his personal MP3 player had 30 gb | > of | > || memory and although I felt a little jealous, I realized that his device | > | was | > || probably much more bulky and required batteries, whereas the Zenstone | > is | > | as | > || small as a slice of chocolate. | > || | > || you can even pick them up second hand on the Re-Cycle list, as I've | > done | > | in | > || the past, for about £15.00, so I'd really recommend you look at this | > | player | > || and give it a go. I'm sure you will not be disappointed. | > || | > || Very best wishes. | > || | > || Andy. | > || | > || | > || | > || | > || | > || The ----- Original Message ----- | > || From: "Andy Collins" <andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> | > || To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> | > || Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 8:21 PM | > || Subject: [access-uk] Re: Ipod or mp3 recommendations please | > || | > || | > || > Hi Steve - so then, is it only the Ipods with Itunes that retains the | > || > place | > || > in mp3 files? Are there really no small alternatives? - | > || > | > || > Andy | > || > ----- Original Message ----- | > || > From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> | > || > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> | > || > Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 8:04 PM | > || > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Ipod or mp3 recommendations please | > || > | > || > | > || > | Hi Andy, | > || > | | > || > | No, they won't retain their place as far as I know. | > || > | | > || > | All the best | > || > | | > || > | Steve | > || > | | > || > | -----Original Message----- | > || > | From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On | > | Behalf | > || > Of | > || > | Andy Collins | > || > | Sent: Thursday 28 August 2008 18:49 | > || > | To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx | > || > | Subject: [access-uk] Re: Ipod or mp3 recommendations please | > || > | | > || > | Hi Steve - She won't be using Audible, but books already converted | > in | > | to | > || > MP3 | > || > | | > || > | format - | > || > | | > || > | Andy | > || > | ----- Original Message ----- | > || > | From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> | > || > | To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> | > || > | Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 4:41 PM | > || > | Subject: [access-uk] Re: Ipod or mp3 recommendations please | > || > | | > || > | | > || > || Hi Andy, | > || > || | > || > || The Zenstone doesn't have a screen, but the Zen does. | > || > || | > || > || They don't remember your place in a track, but they do in an audio | > | book | > || > | from | > || > || Audible. | > || > || | > || > || Yes, standard Mini USB to USB lead will do it, and you can just | > copy | > || > and | > || > || paste. That's just one thing I hate about Ipods, proprietory | > | databases | > || > to | > || > || import your files to, rather than just playing what's there. | > || > || | > || > || All the best | > || > || | > || > || Steve | > || > || | > || > || -----Original Message----- | > || > || From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On | > || > Behalf | > || > | Of | > || > || Andy Collins | > || > || Sent: Thursday 28 August 2008 14:34 | > || > || To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx | > || > || Subject: [access-uk] Re: Ipod or mp3 recommendations please | > || > || | > || > || Hi Steve - Sounds like the Zenstone is more the thing then; 2 | > | questions | > || > || about them if I may: Do they have a screen for a sighted user? and | > | will | > || > | they | > || > || | > || > || remember the position in an a book or music track? Oh, can't count | > | can | > || > I, | > || > || here's a third question! Can they just be hooked up via USB cable | > to | > | a | > || > PC | > || > || for file transfer? - | > || > || | > || > || Andy | > || > || ----- Original Message ----- | > || > || From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> | > || > || To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> | > || > || Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 1:04 PM | > || > || Subject: [access-uk] Re: Ipod or mp3 recommendations please | > || > || | > || > || | > || > ||| Hi Andy, | > || > ||| | > || > ||| I would not recommend Ipods personally, since everything relies | > on | > || > | Itunes. | > || > ||| You can't even copy MP3 files straight to the device without | > Itunes. | > || > I | > || > ||| would recommend something like the Creative Zen 16 or 32GB. Or | > even | > || > the | > || > ||| Zenstone if you want smaller. These players are very simple in | > that | > || > you | > || > || can | > || > ||| just copy and paste files to them, and they will show up. I | > don't | > | see | > || > | the | > || > ||| attraction in Ipods at all, when there are much nicer devices. | > || > ||| | > || > ||| All the best | > || > ||| | > || > ||| Steve | > || > ||| | > || > ||| -----Original Message----- | > || > ||| From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On | > || > Behalf | > || > || Of | > || > ||| Andy Collins | > || > ||| Sent: Thursday 28 August 2008 11:49 | > || > ||| To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx | > || > ||| Subject: [access-uk] Ipod or mp3 recommendations please | > || > ||| | > || > ||| Hi all - | > || > ||| | > || > ||| I'm buying a gift for somebody sighted, and need some advice. I'm | > || > looking | > || > ||| for an easy to use MP3 player, it doesn't need huge capacity as | > it | > | is | > || > || mainly | > || > ||| | > || > ||| for listening to books, and there fore must be able to retain | > it's | > || > place | > || > ||| when turned off; it must also have USB connectivity for loading | > | books | > || > on | > || > || to | > || > ||| it from a PC. 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