[access-uk] Re: Ipod Touch! and Macs

  • From: "Hussein Patwa" <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 12:47:23 -0000

Hi,

It's true, it's a pretty nifty app.  Takes a bit of getting used to when you
type a phone number and it pops up - can you use the call key to start the
call even though T0Nav has opened?

Best,

H.

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-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Ibrahim Gucukoglu
Sent: 31 December 2009 12:02
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Ipod Touch! and Macs

Hi Peter.

The app doesn't just help you find things, stop being such a cynic *smile*, 
and check out T9Nav.  It fully index searches your entire phone, so you can 
quickly get to contacts, menu functions, calendar appointments, music 
tracks, web bookmarks, in fact anything that can be accessed directly or 
indirectly.

All the best, Ibrahim.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Peter Holdstock" <peterholdstock@xxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2009 11:43 AM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Ipod Touch! and Macs


> So I'd need to have paid a fiver to get an app to help me find things?
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Hussein Patwa" <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2009 11:11 AM
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Ipod Touch! and Macs
>
>> Hi Ibrahim,
>>
>> Thanks for the tip, I'm going to give that app a look over.  Anything to
>> make life easy lol.
>>
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>> Have a pleasant day,
>>
>> Kind Regards and Best Wishes,
>>
>> Hussein.
>>
>> Hussein Patwa
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf 
>> Of
>> Ibrahim Gucukoglu
>> Sent: 31 December 2009 07:08
>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Ipod Touch! and Macs
>>
>> Hi Steve.
>>
>> Or, if you can't even be bothered to learn those commands, you could 
>> always
>> use a program like T9Nav, I bought it the other day for just over a fiver
>> for my N86 and its a killer app for saving time and finding those hard to
>> get to functions.
>>
>> All the best, Ibrahim.
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2009 7:01 AM
>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Ipod Touch! and Macs
>>
>>
>>> Hi Peter,
>>>
>>> With respect, that's probably because you didn't take the time to learn
>>> Symbian <Smile>.
>>>
>>> For example, if Contacts is your sixth option in the menu, you don't 
>>> have
>>> to
>>> arrow at all, just press the menu and hit 6.
>>>
>>> If you want the 11th option, hit Star, and the twelfth hit Hash.  Bet 
>>> you
>>> didn't know that?
>>>
>>> If you want the 20th option then life gets a little trickier, but start
>>> arrowing up rather than down.
>>>
>>> Also you can set up to 8 shortcuts on your phone, which can be accessed
>>> with
>>> single keys, using the joystick and key1 and key2.
>>>
>>> Because you really wanted to learn the iPhone, you did, and I respect
>>> that,
>>> but people don't always invest the time to learn Talks and the phone
>>> itself.
>>>
>>> All the best
>>>
>>> Steve
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
>>> Of
>>> Peter Holdstock
>>> Sent: Wednesday 30 December 2009 19:19
>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Ipod Touch! and Macs
>>>
>>> I'd disagree and say it's a very good interface for the blind. The only
>>> downfall is the typing but now that apps such as dragon dictate are 
>>> around
>>> that problem is solved. I can work much quicker using the iphone/ipod
>>> gestures then I ever could with Talks, having to try and move around a
>>> screen and navigate menus.
>>>
>>> Peter
>>>
>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>> From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 5:41 PM
>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Ipod Touch! and Macs
>>>
>>>> Hi Hussein,
>>>>
>>>> You seem to make some assumptions here.
>>>>
>>>> I am totally blind and I use the iPod touch.  It is not an efficient
>>>> interface for the blind, but totally usable, and pretty well 
>>>> accessible.
>>>> But Apple have designed voiceover so that it can be used by totals.
>>>>
>>>> It's a good music player, but I wouldn't want an iPhone for example, as
>>>> for
>>>> productivity it really sucks big time in my view.
>>>>
>>>> All the best
>>>>
>>>> Steve
>>>>
>>>> All the best
>>>>
>>>> Steve
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
>>>> Behalf
>>>> Of
>>>> Hussein Patwa
>>>> Sent: Wednesday 30 December 2009 02:32
>>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Ipod Touch! and Macs
>>>>
>>>> Hi Steve,
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for your post.  You're the first VI person I've come across 
>>>> using
>>>> the
>>>> Touch and I'd be fascinated at just how much of the functionality of 
>>>> the
>>>> device you are able to use whilst remaining with the stock firmware. 
>>>> If
>>>> you
>>>> don't mind my prying, but you must have some residual sight to handle 
>>>> the
>>>> touch interface?  Would you say this is worth considering for others
>>>> needing
>>>> to look for a new media player (for example, if my iPod Video ever 
>>>> kicks
>>>> the
>>>> bucket) or would it be too difficult to handle?
>>>>
>>>> Now for your questions.  For video conversion I use AVS Video 
>>>> Converter.
>>>> It
>>>> is a paid for solution but offers a wide range of presets you can 
>>>> choose
>>>> from, including for iPods.  It's also accessible with my Supernova 
>>>> screen
>>>> reader, or easy to see if you are using magnification.  No doubt 
>>>> someone
>>>> will offer a free solution as I'm sure I've heard of one myself, but 
>>>> the
>>>> name escapes me right now.
>>>>
>>>> HTH.
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________
>>>> Have a pleasant day,
>>>>
>>>> Kind Regards and Best Wishes,
>>>>
>>>> Hussein.
>>>>
>>>> Hussein Patwa
>>>> Tel: 0789 47 595 62 (UK)
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>>>>
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>>>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
>>>> Behalf
>>>> Of
>>>> Steve Hyde-Dryden
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 12:59 AM
>>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Ipod Touch! and Macs
>>>>
>>>> OK Folks!
>>>>
>>>> Santa Claus brought me a great new little gadget for xmas!  Yes, the 
>>>> new
>>>> 32
>>>> GB Ipod Touch.  I've listened to a couple of podcasts re this and have
>>>> got
>>>> to grips pretty well with it's function and how to get around it.  I 
>>>> have
>>>> a
>>>> couple of questions however.  I know there is a more specialised list
>>>> which
>>>> T and T run but wondered if there were many on the list?  Also, does
>>>> anyone
>>>> have the sub details?
>>>>
>>>> Now for my questions:
>>>>
>>>> 1  What is the easiest way to get .avi files onto the ipod?  I believe
>>>> they
>>>> need to be converted first, how do people find the accessibility of 
>>>> these
>>>> conversion tools?  Also, where can I get the most accessible one from?
>>>>
>>>> When I go into the music section of the front screen, is there a way to
>>>> easily switch between artis, album and song views?  How easy is it to 
>>>> set
>>>> up
>>>> play lists?
>>>>
>>>> Anyone got any suggestions for really cool aps which are free?  Also
>>>> though,
>>>> any paid ones which, again, are accessible?
>>>>
>>>> I am pretty knocked out at how easy the touch screen is to manipulate.
>>>> As
>>>> an additional question, how accessible are apple mac computers in
>>>> general?
>>>> presumably, there is more facilities in the full blown voice over ap? 
>>>> I
>>>> hear it is akin to window eyes?  So, does that mean you can get the 
>>>> list
>>>> of
>>>> links etc in safari?
>>>>
>>>> Are there any more tutorials etc for the touch?  And my final question,
>>>> How
>>>> similar is it to the I-phone?
>>>>
>>>> Best wishes.
>>>>
>>>> Steve
>>>>
>>>>
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