Yes the iphone does the same. The rotary tool allows you to change between headings, visited and unvisited links, form fields etc.
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Certainly Steve, on the Ipod touch safari ap, you can also navigate via heading or links using the rotation tool. I assume the I phone would do the same though, can't be sure as I don't have one smiles!Steve----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2009 7:09 AM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Ipod Touch! and MacsHi Peter, But because Facebook is laid out as headings, you can navigate with Talks using single keypresses, and you can even search for text on a web page. Horses for courses. All the best Steve -----Original Message-----From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf OfPeter Holdstock Sent: Thursday 31 December 2009 00:12 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: Ipod Touch! and MacsOh forgot to say that I find the facebook and ebay apps much easier to use than the websites themselves as well. The big thing I like is that once youknow the layout of the screens it becomes very natural to just put your finger where you know the button orwhatever you want is. Using Talks Icouldn't do that, even if I knew where it was you still have to navigate toit. peter -------------------------------------------------- From: "Peter Holdstock" <peterholdstock@xxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2009 12:05 AM To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Ipod Touch! and MacsFirstly, it's just the way they are implimented. Most apps have similar layouts and things that you get used to so finding your way around isn't hard. So far the useful apps I'm using include; * navigan GPS * Stocks and shares * reqall planner/management program which you use your voice to control * Sky + app to read the sky tv guide and control my sky + * Sky news and ITV news apps to watch the latest news * TV catch up to watch all the major channels in the UK including BBC, ITV, C4, C5 and lots more * Mail Plus to access my live mail account * relaxation software to help me sleepAnd I could go on. There are well over a hudnred thousand apps officiallyavailable for the iphone/ipod and it never gets boring as I can alwayshave a look to see whats available. Many of the apps are free or cost lessthan £2.There are lots of podcasts out there talking about it so have a listen tosome of those. Just google iphone voice over Peter -------------------------------------------------- From: "Damon" <damon.rose@xxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 7:21 PM To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Ipod Touch! and Macscan you tell us a bit more about the apps you use on the iPhone or iTouch? And why you think they're better as you mentioned in an earlier post. Thanks v much.----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Holdstock" <peterholdstock@xxxxxxx>To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 7:19 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Ipod Touch! and MacsI'd disagree and say it's a very good interface for the blind. The onlydownfall is the typing but now that apps such as dragon dictate are around that problem is solved. I can work much quicker using the iphone/ipod gestures then I ever could with Talks, having to try and move around a screen and navigate menus. Peter -------------------------------------------------- From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 5:41 PM To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Ipod Touch! and MacsHi Hussein, You seem to make some assumptions here. I am totally blind and I use the iPod touch. It is not an efficient interface for the blind, but totally usable, and pretty well accessible. But Apple have designed voiceover so that it can be used by totals.It's a good music player, but I wouldn't want an iPhone for example, asfor productivity it really sucks big time in my view. All the best Steve All the best Steve -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Hussein Patwa Sent: Wednesday 30 December 2009 02:32 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: Ipod Touch! and Macs Hi Steve, Thanks for your post. You're the first VI person I've come across using the Touch and I'd be fascinated at just how much of the functionality of the device you are able to use whilst remaining with the stock firmware. If you don't mind my prying, but you must have some residual sight to handle the touch interface? Would you say this is worth considering for others needing to look for a new media player (for example, if my iPod Video ever kicks the bucket) or would it be too difficult to handle? Now for your questions. For video conversion I use AVS Video Converter. It is a paid for solution but offers a wide range of presets you can choose from, including for iPods. It's also accessible with my Supernova screen reader, or easy to see if you are using magnification. No doubt someone will offer a free solution as I'm sure I've heard of one myself, but the name escapes me right now. HTH. _______________________________________ Have a pleasant day, Kind Regards and Best Wishes, Hussein. 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Protect our trees; Do not print unless absolutely necessary. Save paper by deleting sections of the message which are not relevant. From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve Hyde-Dryden Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 12:59 AM To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Ipod Touch! and Macs OK Folks! Santa Claus brought me a great new little gadget for xmas! Yes, the new 32GB Ipod Touch. I've listened to a couple of podcasts re this and havegot to grips pretty well with it's function and how to get around it. I have a couple of questions however. I know there is a more specialised list which T and T run but wondered if there were many on the list? Also, does anyone have the sub details? Now for my questions:1 What is the easiest way to get .avi files onto the ipod? I believethey need to be converted first, how do people find the accessibility of theseconversion tools? Also, where can I get the most accessible one from?When I go into the music section of the front screen, is there a way toeasily switch between artis, album and song views? How easy is it to set up play lists? Anyone got any suggestions for really cool aps which are free? Also though, any paid ones which, again, are accessible?I am pretty knocked out at how easy the touch screen is to manipulate.As an additional question, how accessible are apple mac computers in general? presumably, there is more facilities in the full blown voice over ap? I hear it is akin to window eyes? So, does that mean you can get the list of links etc in safari?Are there any more tutorials etc for the touch? And my final question,How similar is it to the I-phone? Best wishes. Steve __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4724 (20091229) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. 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