[access-uk] Re: Ipod Touch! and Macs
- From: "Hussein Patwa" <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 11:16:06 -0000
Hi Steve,
Good to hear your point of view. It just goes to show how different people
have different priorities. I'm going to stick with my N95 8GB until such
time as it either dies or I have a good offer for a replacement. In the
past I would have said I'd upgrade for the spec and software features, but
as we discussed earlier, standalone apps can be found to do just about
anything so that's now a mute point.
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Hussein.
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-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Steve Nutt
Sent: 31 December 2009 06:58
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Ipod Touch! and Macs
Hi Hussein,
First, the good thing about the iPhone is the fact that instead of arrowing
around, things are placed in the same place on the screen, so once you
remember where each icon is, it is straight forward.
But typing really sucks big time. I can type faster than any iPhone user I
have met, with a good Symbian phone, using the T9 predictive text. Sending
texts with the iPhone is painful. Come to that, inputting any text is
painful. But getting round menus and icons is OK. So productivity, no.
Fun, yes. To me, it is a toy, and that's what it will remain. Besides, the
Nokia N86 runs rings round it specification wise. Lets look at just a few
of the downsides to the spec.
3MP camera? Oh, come on.
Poor battery life.
Bluetooth connectivity? What Bluetooth connectivity? They have only just
started to support the A2DP protocol, and you can only use audio devices.
So Bluetooth keyboards are out for the moment. And so are Braille Bluetooth
Braille displays. So that completely alienates the deaf-blind.
N86 on the other hand, has an 8MP camera, can connect up to five Bluetooth
devices at one time, and the battery life is great. Braille display support
is there too.
Don't get me wrong, Hussein, I think Apple have done a great job at putting
accessibility right into the operating system, but so many people tell me,
especially blind people, how great the iPhone is, and I have seen nothing
compelling to back this up yet.
Anyone want to counter this, I'd be fascinated.
All the best
Steve
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Hussein Patwa
Sent: Wednesday 30 December 2009 19:25
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Ipod Touch! and Macs
Quite true Steve, as I did not know anyone who had used one beforehand to
know better. Also, I fully admit to not having seen the gadget or any touch
screen phone for that matter before, so was unaware how anyone would
navigate it. Hence why I'm pleased to see your view on it. Noted your
contrasting view of the iPhone. May I ask how you find the iPhone sucks in
terms of productivity?
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Hussein.
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-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Steve Nutt
Sent: 30 December 2009 17:41
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Ipod Touch! and Macs
Hi Hussein,
You seem to make some assumptions here.
I am totally blind and I use the iPod touch. It is not an efficient
interface for the blind, but totally usable, and pretty well accessible.
But Apple have designed voiceover so that it can be used by totals.
It's a good music player, but I wouldn't want an iPhone for example, as for
productivity it really sucks big time in my view.
All the best
Steve
All the best
Steve
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Hussein Patwa
Sent: Wednesday 30 December 2009 02:32
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Ipod Touch! and Macs
Hi Steve,
Thanks for your post. You're the first VI person I've come across using the
Touch and I'd be fascinated at just how much of the functionality of the
device you are able to use whilst remaining with the stock firmware. If you
don't mind my prying, but you must have some residual sight to handle the
touch interface? Would you say this is worth considering for others needing
to look for a new media player (for example, if my iPod Video ever kicks the
bucket) or would it be too difficult to handle?
Now for your questions. For video conversion I use AVS Video Converter. It
is a paid for solution but offers a wide range of presets you can choose
from, including for iPods. It's also accessible with my Supernova screen
reader, or easy to see if you are using magnification. No doubt someone
will offer a free solution as I'm sure I've heard of one myself, but the
name escapes me right now.
HTH.
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Hussein.
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From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Steve Hyde-Dryden
Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 12:59 AM
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Ipod Touch! and Macs
OK Folks!
Santa Claus brought me a great new little gadget for xmas! Yes, the new 32
GB Ipod Touch. I've listened to a couple of podcasts re this and have got
to grips pretty well with it's function and how to get around it. I have a
couple of questions however. I know there is a more specialised list which
T and T run but wondered if there were many on the list? Also, does anyone
have the sub details?
Now for my questions:
1 What is the easiest way to get .avi files onto the ipod? I believe they
need to be converted first, how do people find the accessibility of these
conversion tools? Also, where can I get the most accessible one from?
When I go into the music section of the front screen, is there a way to
easily switch between artis, album and song views? How easy is it to set up
play lists?
Anyone got any suggestions for really cool aps which are free? Also though,
any paid ones which, again, are accessible?
I am pretty knocked out at how easy the touch screen is to manipulate. As
an additional question, how accessible are apple mac computers in general?
presumably, there is more facilities in the full blown voice over ap? I
hear it is akin to window eyes? So, does that mean you can get the list of
links etc in safari?
Are there any more tutorials etc for the touch? And my final question, How
similar is it to the I-phone?
Best wishes.
Steve
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