[access-uk] Re: Ipod Touch! and Macs

  • From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 07:09:56 -0000

Hi Peter,

But because Facebook is laid out as headings, you can navigate with Talks
using single keypresses, and you can even search for text on a web page.

Horses for courses.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Peter Holdstock
Sent: Thursday 31 December 2009 00:12
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Ipod Touch! and Macs

Oh forgot to say that I find the facebook and ebay apps much easier to use 
than the websites themselves as well. The big thing I like is that once you 
know the layout of the screens it becomes very natural to just put your 
finger where you know the button orwhatever you want is. Using Talks I 
couldn't do that, even if I knew where it was you still have to navigate to 
it.

peter


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From: "Peter Holdstock" <peterholdstock@xxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2009 12:05 AM
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Ipod Touch! and Macs

> Firstly, it's just the way they are implimented. Most apps have similar 
> layouts and things that you get used to so finding your way around isn't 
> hard.
>
> So far the useful apps I'm using include;
> * navigan GPS
> * Stocks and shares
> * reqall planner/management program which you use your voice to control
> * Sky + app to read the sky tv guide and control my sky +
> * Sky news and ITV news apps to watch the latest news
> * TV catch up to watch all the major channels in the UK including BBC, 
> ITV, C4, C5 and lots more
> * Mail Plus to access my live mail account
> * relaxation software to help me sleep
>
> And I could go on. There are well over a hudnred thousand apps officially 
> available for the iphone/ipod  and it never gets boring as I can always 
> have a look to see whats available. Many of the apps are free or cost less

> than £2.
>
> There are lots of podcasts out there talking about it so have a listen to 
> some of those. Just google iphone voice over
>
> Peter
>
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> From: "Damon" <damon.rose@xxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 7:21 PM
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Ipod Touch! and Macs
>
>> can you tell us a bit more about the apps you use on the iPhone or 
>> iTouch? And why you think they're better as you mentioned in an earlier 
>> post.
>>
>> Thanks v much.
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Peter Holdstock" <peterholdstock@xxxxxxx>
>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 7:19 PM
>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Ipod Touch! and Macs
>>
>>
>>> I'd disagree and say it's a very good interface for the blind. The only 
>>> downfall is the typing but now that apps such as dragon dictate are 
>>> around that problem is solved. I can work much quicker using the 
>>> iphone/ipod gestures then I ever could with Talks, having to try and 
>>> move around a screen and navigate menus.
>>>
>>> Peter
>>>
>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>> From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 5:41 PM
>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Ipod Touch! and Macs
>>>
>>>> Hi Hussein,
>>>>
>>>> You seem to make some assumptions here.
>>>>
>>>> I am totally blind and I use the iPod touch.  It is not an efficient
>>>> interface for the blind, but totally usable, and pretty well 
>>>> accessible.
>>>> But Apple have designed voiceover so that it can be used by totals.
>>>>
>>>> It's a good music player, but I wouldn't want an iPhone for example, as

>>>> for
>>>> productivity it really sucks big time in my view.
>>>>
>>>> All the best
>>>>
>>>> Steve
>>>>
>>>> All the best
>>>>
>>>> Steve
>>>>
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>>>> Hussein Patwa
>>>> Sent: Wednesday 30 December 2009 02:32
>>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Ipod Touch! and Macs
>>>>
>>>> Hi Steve,
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for your post.  You're the first VI person I've come across 
>>>> using the
>>>> Touch and I'd be fascinated at just how much of the functionality of 
>>>> the
>>>> device you are able to use whilst remaining with the stock firmware. 
>>>> If you
>>>> don't mind my prying, but you must have some residual sight to handle 
>>>> the
>>>> touch interface?  Would you say this is worth considering for others 
>>>> needing
>>>> to look for a new media player (for example, if my iPod Video ever 
>>>> kicks the
>>>> bucket) or would it be too difficult to handle?
>>>>
>>>> Now for your questions.  For video conversion I use AVS Video 
>>>> Converter. It
>>>> is a paid for solution but offers a wide range of presets you can 
>>>> choose
>>>> from, including for iPods.  It's also accessible with my Supernova 
>>>> screen
>>>> reader, or easy to see if you are using magnification.  No doubt 
>>>> someone
>>>> will offer a free solution as I'm sure I've heard of one myself, but 
>>>> the
>>>> name escapes me right now.
>>>>
>>>> HTH.
>>>>
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>>>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
>>>> Behalf Of
>>>> Steve Hyde-Dryden
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 12:59 AM
>>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Ipod Touch! and Macs
>>>>
>>>> OK Folks!
>>>>
>>>> Santa Claus brought me a great new little gadget for xmas!  Yes, the 
>>>> new 32
>>>> GB Ipod Touch.  I've listened to a couple of podcasts re this and have 
>>>> got
>>>> to grips pretty well with it's function and how to get around it.  I 
>>>> have a
>>>> couple of questions however.  I know there is a more specialised list 
>>>> which
>>>> T and T run but wondered if there were many on the list?  Also, does 
>>>> anyone
>>>> have the sub details?
>>>>
>>>> Now for my questions:
>>>>
>>>> 1  What is the easiest way to get .avi files onto the ipod?  I believe 
>>>> they
>>>> need to be converted first, how do people find the accessibility of 
>>>> these
>>>> conversion tools?  Also, where can I get the most accessible one from?
>>>>
>>>> When I go into the music section of the front screen, is there a way to
>>>> easily switch between artis, album and song views?  How easy is it to 
>>>> set up
>>>> play lists?
>>>>
>>>> Anyone got any suggestions for really cool aps which are free?  Also 
>>>> though,
>>>> any paid ones which, again, are accessible?
>>>>
>>>> I am pretty knocked out at how easy the touch screen is to manipulate. 
>>>> As
>>>> an additional question, how accessible are apple mac computers in 
>>>> general?
>>>> presumably, there is more facilities in the full blown voice over ap? 
>>>> I
>>>> hear it is akin to window eyes?  So, does that mean you can get the 
>>>> list of
>>>> links etc in safari?
>>>>
>>>> Are there any more tutorials etc for the touch?  And my final question,

>>>> How
>>>> similar is it to the I-phone?
>>>>
>>>> Best wishes.
>>>>
>>>> Steve
>>>>
>>>>
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