[access-uk] Re: Ipod Touch! and Macs

  • From: "Peter Holdstock" <peterholdstock@xxxxxxx>
  • To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 00:07:11 -0000

Yes I agree with you about the dictation but it's nice to have the option and everyone who has tried it on the iphone is amazed at the accuracy. Nothing wrong with either using a bluetooth headset and the touch screen or external keyboard though if you want.


peter

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From: "Hussein Patwa" <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 7:41 PM
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Ipod Touch! and Macs

I have to agree with Ibrahim re the security downside of using your voice as
the main input method.  I've been bitten by that one before.  OK so you
could pedantically argue that one should know better and who would dictate
personal correspondence in a public place, but often convenience overules
rationality.

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-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Ibrahim Gucukoglu
Sent: 30 December 2009 19:34
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Ipod Touch! and Macs

Hi Peter.

OK, so your happy to dictate personal or confidential text messages and
emails are you? I used to use Vlingo on my Nokia phone, but apart from the fact that it isn't compatible with my new handset the N86, I'm beginning to wonder whether voice dictation is always the best way to input information.
At least with the Nokia phones, you have a variety of ways of inputting
texts, you have the number pad, an external keyboard, a Braille display if
you use one and of course your voice. With the IFone, because the Bluetooth

implementation is so bad, a keyboard can't be used so the only options are
the on screen keyboard and your voice. Since I'd never want to rely totally

on my voice especially if I wanted to write something highly personal to
someone, its not a viable option for me.

All the best, Ibrahim.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Holdstock" <peterholdstock@xxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 7:19 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Ipod Touch! and Macs


I'd disagree and say it's a very good interface for the blind. The only
downfall is the typing but now that apps such as dragon dictate are around

that problem is solved. I can work much quicker using the iphone/ipod
gestures then I ever could with Talks, having to try and move around a
screen and navigate menus.

Peter

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From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 5:41 PM
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Ipod Touch! and Macs

Hi Hussein,

You seem to make some assumptions here.

I am totally blind and I use the iPod touch.  It is not an efficient
interface for the blind, but totally usable, and pretty well accessible.
But Apple have designed voiceover so that it can be used by totals.

It's a good music player, but I wouldn't want an iPhone for example, as
for
productivity it really sucks big time in my view.

All the best

Steve

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of
Hussein Patwa
Sent: Wednesday 30 December 2009 02:32
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Ipod Touch! and Macs

Hi Steve,

Thanks for your post.  You're the first VI person I've come across using
the
Touch and I'd be fascinated at just how much of the functionality of the
device you are able to use whilst remaining with the stock firmware.  If
you
don't mind my prying, but you must have some residual sight to handle the
touch interface?  Would you say this is worth considering for others
needing
to look for a new media player (for example, if my iPod Video ever kicks
the
bucket) or would it be too difficult to handle?

Now for your questions.  For video conversion I use AVS Video Converter.
It
is a paid for solution but offers a wide range of presets you can choose
from, including for iPods. It's also accessible with my Supernova screen
reader, or easy to see if you are using magnification.  No doubt someone
will offer a free solution as I'm sure I've heard of one myself, but the
name escapes me right now.

HTH.

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Kind Regards and Best Wishes,

Hussein.

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From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of
Steve Hyde-Dryden
Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 12:59 AM
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Ipod Touch! and Macs

OK Folks!

Santa Claus brought me a great new little gadget for xmas!  Yes, the new
32
GB Ipod Touch.  I've listened to a couple of podcasts re this and have
got
to grips pretty well with it's function and how to get around it. I have

a
couple of questions however.  I know there is a more specialised list
which
T and T run but wondered if there were many on the list?  Also, does
anyone
have the sub details?

Now for my questions:

1  What is the easiest way to get .avi files onto the ipod?  I believe
they
need to be converted first, how do people find the accessibility of these
conversion tools?  Also, where can I get the most accessible one from?

When I go into the music section of the front screen, is there a way to
easily switch between artis, album and song views? How easy is it to set

up
play lists?

Anyone got any suggestions for really cool aps which are free?  Also
though,
any paid ones which, again, are accessible?

I am pretty knocked out at how easy the touch screen is to manipulate.
As
an additional question, how accessible are apple mac computers in
general?
presumably, there is more facilities in the full blown voice over ap?  I
hear it is akin to window eyes?  So, does that mean you can get the list
of
links etc in safari?

Are there any more tutorials etc for the touch?  And my final question,
How
similar is it to the I-phone?

Best wishes.

Steve



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