[access-uk] Re: Iona voices

  • From: "ANDY COLLINS" <Andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 12:56:42 +0100

Perhaps I'll spend a bit of time and see if I can get to grips with NVDA. Which 
synths/voices are available? -

Andy
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Peter Beasley 
  To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2012 11:58 AM
  Subject: [access-uk] Re: Iona voices


  I don't know about other screenreaders, but NVDA has the option to have beeps 
for capitals.
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: john coley 
    To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2012 11:39 AM
    Subject: [access-uk] Re: Iona voices


    Hi Andy, yes, it's a great shame that they can't find a way of getting the 
SAPI voices to support pitch. So many people have got used to pitch change 
denoting capitals. I'm sure those creating these voices could find a way, it's 
more, I suspect, that they aren't bothered enough to try. It's easy to spot 
people using SAPI voices, as their capitalisation's out of the window.
      On your point about Amy's diction she can't say T in a lot of cases 
either. She says D. Another odd thing about the voices is not only the way they 
say things, for example world war the second instead of world war 2, but also 
seemingly made up words they come up with sometimes. I have the Goodmans digi 
box, and the synth they've used for that can't say x or ex, as in X men or 
Exfactor. I'd be interested to get from anyone with a Goodmans box who've 
noticed these made up words to hear their guesses as to what the made up words 
are.
                        John.

      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: ANDY COLLINS 
      To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
      Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2012 10:55 AM
      Subject: [access-uk] Re: Iona voices


      Hi John -

      Shame that. Would it really have been so difficult to have included pitch 
change with the Ivona voices, and why are there such strange anomalies such as 
the way Amy yells the letter Y, and pushes some syllables so hard it sounds 
like she's constipated! -

      Andy

        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: john coley 
        To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
        Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2012 11:29 PM
        Subject: [access-uk] Re: Iona voices


        Hi Andy, none of those voices support pitch. The same goes for 
Realspeak and the other human sounding SAPI voices. I've only come across one 
vaguely human sounding synth that supports pitch, and that was SVox Pico for 
use with NVDA.
                            John.

          ----- Original Message ----- 
          From: ANDY COLLINS 
          To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
          Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2012 6:03 PM
          Subject: [access-uk] Iona voices


          Hi all -

          I'm using the Iona voices in demo mode for now, thinking about buying 
a license. I'm not very impressed with Brian and Emma [uk voices] but Amy [uk] 
is pretty reasonable, even though I don't like the way she pronounces certain 
words.

          I was trying to make changes in JAWS, so that she would speak capitol 
letters in a higher pitch, the way I am use to under Eloquence, but no matter 
how much I Play around with this setting, it makes no difference. All letters 
are read in the same pitch, when reading character by character. The odd thing 
however, is that when Amy comes across the letter y [case doesn't matter] she 
seems to yell it out, and in a slightly raised pitch too, as if there is 
something special about the letter y!

          Anybody have similar experiences? -

          Andy


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