[access-uk] Re: Internet radio update

  • From: "john snowling" <johnsnowling@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 16:08:52 -0000

Hi jackie I agree with you reguards rnib and also this internet radio scam.

Vi organisations in this country never learn.

-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Jackie Cairns
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 2:23 PM
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Internet radio update

Hmm.  Ray, it's like the RNIB membership scheme, where you get a nice little

bi-monthly magazine that kids you into believing you find out more about 
what's going on if you become a member.

I wonder what the Charity Commission would have to say about this radio? 
I've heard loads of cliches in the last week.  Here's another one: "There's 
only one way to find out."

Jackie
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ray's Home" <rays-home@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 2:05 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Internet radio update


> Thanks Jackie for the promised report-back on the accessible internet
> radio.  Well, almost accessible?
>
> Not sure folks what to make of this subject, but would I be far of the
> mark to think this is a backdoor way of launching a product to an
> unsuspecting and maybe too trusting market?  Simply don't understand
> particularly why stations have to be added for you.  The final
> question has to bee, What other solutions were being tried to make
> this the one to go with?  I've heard nothing on this score myself that
> I can recall.
>
> I Must express my concern and anger at what I think is now becoming a
> more and more obvious tendency of abuse in the charity sector due to a
> blurring of lines and thinking, or lack of it, as to 'charitable
> purpose' and what is business.
>
> I don't like this tendency that's growing now for our beloved
> charities to seek to 'monitories' services by stealth and slight of
> hand.  Just a few days ago a cheeky bugger from RNIB on the Arena list
> told us that the RNIB streaming service is entirely separate from the
> Talking Book Service.  That to my mind is a weasel way of saying
> "different service, you pay again, in spite of the fact you are
> already paying for something we're just tapping into, i.e. the long
> established TB service."
>
> Sorry to say this, but I feel increasingly that our services are
> falling into the hands of money makers who are less than up-front
> about their agendas.  For profit incentive entrepreneur, read,
> "mercenary" and like mercenaries they'll soon get their arses out of
> it if it doesn't pay.  What angers me so much is its being done
> seemingly under the auspices of well established and trusted
> charities.  Take care where you place your trust.  (Interesting to see
> Mr. Honest on here, aka Dave Anchors.)
>
>
> From Ray
> I can be contacted off-list at:
> mailto:ray-48@xxxxxxxx
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Ankers, Dave (UK)
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Internet radio update
>
>
>
> Terry,/Jackie
>
> Perhaps you could ask for a response from the MD of Solutions Radio,
> in order to resolve this solutions opportunity!
> I always like to get the facts from the horses mouth, just so they
> cannot say they have been mis-represented, and if the facts are e
> indeed fact, I know one internet radio I won't be buying.
>
> Dave
>
> Jackie when I met with the lady from Solutions Radio I did say that it
> was crucial that people could independently add stations.
> I tell you the mainstream market wouldn't get away with this.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jackie Cairns <mailto:cairnsplace@xxxxxxx>
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 12:07 PM
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Internet radio update
>
> Terry, I asked Luke to repeat exactly what he meant to ensure I was
> hearing it correctly while I processed the information.  But that's
> what he said.
>
> Relaying the infomation to Ian after my call, he made a very valid
> point.  He said he would want to know what would happen if you bought
> a radio off them, and didn't subscribe to their newspapers service, as
> we currently don't.  Ian wondered if they would then decline to put
> stations into the radio if you wanted them to, or whether they would
> continue to support its existence.
>
> The other thing we don't like about this is the fact you have to keep
> getting TNAUK to put the stations in you come across.  We would feel a
> lack of control of the whole thing personally.
>
> To me, this whole thing has the makings of a good story somewhere,
> but then maybe it's my journalistic gut working overtime (smile).
>
> Incidentally Terry, sorry I didn't get to tell you what the Eurosport
> number was for the tennis last week.  By the time I read your Email,
> the match was over.  For future reference though, it is 410.
>
> Jackie
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Terry Clasper <mailto:terry.clasper@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 11:54 AM
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Internet radio update
>
> This sounds crazy,.
> They are either having a trial or they are not.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jackie Cairns <mailto:cairnsplace@xxxxxxx>
> To: Access UK Mailing List <mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 11:38 AM
> Subject: [access-uk] Internet radio update
>
> Hi All
>
> Pin your ears back as I have an update that might be of interest to
> some.
>
> My last post to this list on the thread of Internet radios
> intimated I would let you know how I got on with a web radio that
> TNAUK are trialing.  A couple of weeks ago, they agreed to send me a
> web radio when a customer who had finished with their set returned it
> to them.
>
> At the end of last week, however, I got an Email from Ted Davis to
> say that he had a web radio in stock if I wanted to purchase it for
> £275.00.  So I thought to myself, in typical Jackie fashion: "Why
> would I want to buy a web radio if the trial is still going on, and
> nobody has forked out any money for these sets to my knowledge?"  So I
> contacted TNAUK today, and spoke to Ted's colleague, Luke.
>
> The full story appears to be this.  TNAUK are lending 15 web radios
> to people at the moment to trial.  Anyone over and above those 15 who
> express an interest in the box must pay £275.00 for the privilege of
> owning one.  The trial ends at the end of February, but, he tells me,
> things look "promising."  According to TNAUK, RNIB have come to the
> same conclusion as TNAUK that this way forward is the best solution.
>
> I asked Luke how I would be supported with a web radio if I bought
> one, and he said that if I wanted an Internet radio station added to
> it, I could contact them with the details, and they would have it put
> in for me without the radio being returned to TNAUK.  I used the
> scenario of wanting Sky Radio in it, and he said this would be
> possible.  I then asked about future upgrades and support, and he said
> that it depended on what was to happen after the trial.
>
> So my conclusion is that they appear to want to sell you a web box,
> but can't guarantee you its lifespan after the trial ends next month
> with the 15 recipients who are doing that for nothing.
>
> Since I am under no disclosure, I don't see why you shouldn't be
> aware of this information.  But I'm trying to suppress my own thoughts
> because I can't decide whether it's me who is going mad, or whether
> this whole thing has a very nasty taste about it.
>
> Sorry for the long post, but that's the latest.
>
> Jackie
>
>
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