Peter, if it's any help, I ditched real player about two weeks ago and installed real alternative. I've had no problems with BBC radio programmes and at least my PC is now my own without real player butting in. Cheers, Sandra. ** To leave the list, send a message to:- ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq