[access-uk] Re: Intel debuts text reader for the blind
- From: "Hussein Patwa" <accessuk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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- Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:14:37 -0000
Hi,
Not a problem, I stand corrected. Apologies for any unintentional offence
caused.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of john coley
> Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 2:36 PM
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Intel debuts text reader for the blind
>
> Hi Hussein, I think you've got hold of the wrong end of the stick. The
> poster didn't say that the technology should be paid for by third party
> organizations. He was saying that that was the attitude of the
> producers and
> suppliers of the technology.
> John.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Hussein Patwa" <accessuk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 11:12 AM
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Intel debuts text reader for the blind
>
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > Firstly, thanks very much for that. I personally was not inclined to
> go
> > and
> > read further about the new Intel reader, but nevertheless this
> article was
> > interesting. I'd just like to pick out one point made in the article
> > because I disagree completely with it.
> >
> > Before I go on, and given recent actions on this list, let me just
> say
> > this
> > is not intended to start an argument, offend anyone, be they a
> company or
> > individual, discriminate in any way, or otherwise give good grounds
> for
> > any
> > disciplinary action. Further, this does relate to both technology
> and the
> > visually impaired, so I'm hoping this isn't going to be consigned to
> the
> > trash can before it sees the light of day.
> >
> > I take umbrage with the comment by the anonymous poster that the
> > technology
> > should be paid for by 3rd parties because it's designed for and will
> be
> > used
> > by the disabled. I feel this sheds a very bad light on the disable's
> > ability to generate disposable income, and also gives a negative
> > connotation
> > to them having any sort of independence. It seems to be suggesting
> that
> > because the disabled have a need for this technology, and because
> they are
> > unable to pay for it, then they should receive aid from third
> parties.
> >
> > All laws, statutes and statistics aside, I know from first hand
> comments
> > from several on this list that there are many blind and disabled
> persons
> > enjoying really happy lives and making a good income. If we take the
> > thought behind the comment, should these people not be entitled to do
> so?
> > Just think on that one for a moment.
> >
> > What I'd say is that I personally disagree with the comment. I
> respect
> > all
> > those who have borne struggles and triumphed. I also empathise with
> those
> > who have been less fortunate. But whatever you do, I'd encourage you
> to
> > stick to what you believe in, and don't lose hope of achieving what
> you
> > want
> > just because some people feel that the disabled should only live on
> > hand-outs and cannot fend for themselves. If you do want to make use
> f
> > the
> > services, including financial that you are entitled to, then good on
> you,
> > and as long as it's legal, why not? Whether you want to rely on aid
> to
> > buy
> > your technology, or fund it yourself, you are just as entitled to do
> both
> > as
> > you see fit.
> >
> > Again, my sincere apologies if this has crossed the line. Further,
> just
> > as
> > a disclaimer more than anything, I was just making this one comment
> as I
> > felt strongly about it. I'm not personally encouraging, nor
> intending for
> > this to start an argument or debate on the independence ova the
> disabled
> > or
> > lack of, but if anyone does want to comment to me directly, feel free
> to
> > do
> > it off-list.
> >
> > _______________________________________
> > Have a pleasant day,
> >
> > Kind Regards and Best Wishes,
> >
> > Hussein.
> >
> > Hussein Patwa
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> >> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> >> Behalf Of Paul Leake
> >> Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 9:21 PM
> >> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Intel debuts text reader for the blind
> >>
> >> see below, article about the above by Mike Calvo from Serotech. it
> >> gives an
> >> interesting perspective!
> >>
> >> What I think About the Intel Reader
> >> Yesterday marked the release of a product which, according to Intel,
> >> would
> >> revolutionize the way the blind and others with reading disabilities
> >> accessed printed materials. During those few fleeting moments
> between
> >> hearing of the announcement and reading the actual press release, I
> had
> >> high
> >> hopes that a mainstream company would demonstrate its dedication to
> >> accessibility and innovation at an affordable price. And with
> backing
> >> from
> >> companies and organizations such as Humanware, Lighthouse
> International
> >> and
> >> the Council for Exceptional Children, I felt certain that the device
> I
> >> was
> >> going to read about would be very impressive indeed.
> >>
> >> The Intel Reader, a device about the size of a paperback and
> weighing
> >> approximately 1 pound, is equipped with a camera and text-to-speech
> >> allowing
> >> print documents such as newspapers, menus, and signs to be converted
> in
> >> to a
> >> readable form by the blind and others with print disabilities. With
> the
> >> addition of a capturing station, sold separately, the device can be
> >> used to
> >> scan and convert more lengthy materials such as textbooks and
> novels.
> >> It can
> >> also read existing etexts in Daisy format as well as play standard
> MP3
> >> and
> >> Wav files. This feature set reads quite a bit like other mainstream
> and
> >> custom-built solutions on the market. In fact, the only jaw-dropping
> >> aspect
> >> of this product is its price. The device itself can be had for a
> mere
> >> $1499,
> >> and you'll pay an extra $399 for the privilege of using the
> capturing
> >> station.
> >>
> >> After the initial shock, I and many others in the blind community
> began
> >> looking more closely at the information available about the device,
> >> just to
> >> ensure that we hadn't overlooked anything truly awe-inspiring. After
> >> all,
> >> for its price, there had to be something which set the device apart
> >> from
> >> existing solutions such as the KNFB Reader for performing OCR on
> >> documents
> >> on the go, the forthcoming free e-reader from Kurzweil to read
> existing
> >> Daisy documents, off-the-shelf solutions like a PC, scanner, and
> ABBYY
> >> FineReader for more involved projects like scanning textbooks, or
> even
> >> the
> >> $259 Amazon Kindle, which isn't currently accessible but could be
> made
> >> so
> >> with a little effort and encouragement from the community.
> >>
> >> As we learned more about the Intel Reader, there was plenty to make
> >> this
> >> device unique. First, while most portable scanning solutions like
> the
> >> KNFB
> >> reader for mobile phones or a scanner/Netbook combo are equipped
> with
> >> wi-fi
> >> access, the Intel Reader can't make that claim. In this article from
> >> VentureBeat it is stated that wi-fi is absent from the product
> because
> >> web-connected devices aren't allowed in some classrooms. Far be it
> from
> >> us
> >> to suggest including wi-fi and leaving it up to school IT
> professionals
> >> to
> >> handle whether or not to grant wi-fi access, as they must do for all
> >> other
> >> wi-fi-equipped mainstream devices.
> >>
> >> In addition to having no wi-fi capabilities, the device is also
> unable
> >> to
> >> handle HTML content natively. Rather, a user must first convert the
> >> HtML
> >> document to plain text before it can be read. This doesn't bode well
> >> for a
> >> device whose major goal is purportedly to take the hassle out of
> >> reading for
> >> the blind and print-disabled.
> >>
> >> Given that this device appears to boast no significant features
> setting
> >> it
> >> apart in a positive way from existing solutions, we must ask why the
> >> device
> >> was created in the first place. Ben Foss, the Intel representative
> >> spear-heading the project, has a lot to say on this. Foss states in
> a
> >> press
> >> conference: "A metaphor for this are the ramps that make buildings
> >> wheelchair accessible. This reader is like a ramp." Unfortunately,
> this
> >> particular metaphor is far from apt. While wheelchair ramps are an
> >> example
> >> of smart universal design principles in action because they're just
> as
> >> useful to a walking mother with a stroller as they are to a person
> in a
> >> wheelchair, the Intel reader has been manufactured and marketed
> >> exclusively
> >> for the blind and print-disabled without a thought for universal
> >> design.
> >> Foss goes on to acknowledge that the price is not cheap, but guess
> >> what,
> >> folks? It's ok. You see, the device contains several custom
> components.
> >> Never mind that the essential components are a 5-megapixel camera,
> >> flash
> >> memory, and Intel's own low-cost Atom processor which can all be had
> >> for
> >> under $250 as parts. Are you questioning the price yet? No, don't do
> >> that.
> >> Intel can explain. Braille reading devices can cost upwards of
> $10000,
> >> so
> >> $1500 is really easy to swallow in comparison to that, isn't it?
> Never
> >> mind
> >> that comparing Braille displays and text-to-speech readers makes
> little
> >> sense.
> >>
> >> In essence, Intel is unapologetically asking us to accept this
> device's
> >> hefty price tag for no other reason than that it was designed
> >> specifically
> >> for the blind. Are we going to accept being blatantly charged a
> premium
> >> because of our blindness, especially by a company who claims to have
> a
> >> philanthropic bent? Remember Intel's Classmate PC, whose aim was to
> >> provide
> >> a low-cost and rugged netbook to students, especially those in
> >> developing
> >> countries? How can we take initiatives like that seriously when with
> >> this
> >> device Intel clearly shows it isn't interested in providing low-cost
> >> solutions to the blind students in its own back yard?
> >>
> >> Still, Intel didn't create this device in a vacuum. "Intel has done
> its
> >> homework on the device,", says Dorrie Rush, who serves as the
> marketing
> >> director for Lighthouse International. This signifies that Intel
> >> received
> >> input from blind and print-disabled individuals as it designed the
> >> product.
> >> So why is it that no one from these groups questioned Intel's
> decision
> >> to
> >> reinvent the wheel, and in a completely lackluster way at that. Why
> did
> >> no
> >> one from these groups encourage Intel to combine existing components
> to
> >> create an innovative and affordable product that could be beneficial
> to
> >> all?
> >>
> >> No matter how stunning a product Intel created, it still needed the
> >> backing
> >> of influential groups within the blind community in order to be
> taken
> >> seriously. For Humanware, who is among the companies distributing
> the
> >> product, partnering with one of the most lucrative and well-known
> >> mainstream
> >> companies was a huge accomplishment. Did Humanware leverage this
> >> relationship to educate Intel so that at least one mainstream
> company
> >> would
> >> design its products with accessibility in mind from the ground up?
> No!
> >> It
> >> did not! Humanware thanked Intel for producing yet another
> overpriced,
> >> sub
> >> par blind ghetto product, and jumped on the chance to convince
> millions
> >> of
> >> blind and print-disabled people that they need look no further than
> >> this
> >> bulky and expensive device to further their independence. When a
> >> mainstream
> >> company like Intel employs such tactics it is shameful. But from
> >> Humanware,
> >> a company who should by all rights have the interests of blind
> >> consumers at
> >> heart, these actions are nothing less than despicable.
> >>
> >> Because of Intel's status and high visibility, its new product rated
> >> mentions in mainstream publications as well as those which are more
> >> blindness-oriented. In this somewhat flippant article from Engadget,
> >> the
> >> authors posit that a device like the Intel reader could be created
> for
> >> under
> >> $500, and I suspect they're right. But the interesting reading isn't
> so
> >> much
> >> the article itself, but the comments. One post says in part: "Sure,
> you
> >> could build something that did something similar for less money, but
> >> would
> >> you then be able to give it to a nearly blind person to use all day,
> >> everyday? Completely implausible for $500." This same poster goes on
> to
> >> say:
> >> "besides, the target audience for this device is disabled -- it
> should
> >> be
> >> paid for by 3rd parties because it meets the requirements to be
> classed
> >> as
> >> an aide for the disabled."
> >>
> >> And there you have it -- everything that we despise about this
> >> product's
> >> existence all wrapped up in a smug, condescending little package and
> >> tied
> >> with a bow. Essentially, this poster believes that nothing which
> wasn't
> >> created specifically for the blind could possibly work well in a
> day-
> >> to-day
> >> situation. Not only that, but there are apparently an abundance of
> tax
> >> dollars to go around for purchasing overpriced devices. And luckily,
> >> the
> >> blind person need not ever make a decision as a consumer since
> there's
> >> a
> >> benevolent 3rd-party agency to take care of such things, rendering
> the
> >> process of making choices for oneself unnecessary.
> >>
> >> So, are we, as a community, going to let this stand? Are we going to
> >> throw
> >> our support behind Intel, who spent countless hours and research
> funds
> >> to
> >> offer us a third-rate product which is priced out of our reach? Are
> we
> >> going
> >> to put our hard-earned money in the pockets of Humanware, who
> >> squandered
> >> their one chance to truly shape the direction of accessibility in
> >> mainstream
> >> technology in favor of making a quick profit? Do we want to continue
> >> accepting the pronouncement that blind ghetto products are not only
> >> necessary, but worthy of our everlasting gratitude? Or are we going
> to
> >> tear
> >> down those ghetto walls and demand our rightful place as the smart
> and
> >> savvy
> >> consumers that we are!
> >>
> >> And before you say that you're only one consumer, that your voice
> will
> >> never
> >> be heard, I will tell you that you're wrong. You can make a choice
> to
> >> be
> >> educated about what you buy before you make a decision. And once you
> >> embrace
> >> the power to choose, you'll want to share that power., and you won't
> >> want to
> >> stop with just one person. You'll tell every blind person you know
> to
> >> stop
> >> and think before choosing a product which has no claim to fame other
> >> than
> >> being designed for the blind. You'll tell the blindness agencies and
> >> school
> >> systems who already struggle with tight budgets to stop and
> investigate
> >> before accepting the party line and purchasing something which does
> >> half as
> >> much at twice the price. And to those companies who are banking on
> your
> >> willingness to accept anything less than the best just because it's
> >> been
> >> given the stamp of accessibility, the sound of your wallet slamming
> >> shut an
> >> the realization that you are actually "a consumer" with a functional
> >> brain
> >> and an opinion will convey your point quite eloquently indeed!
> >> Posted by Mike Calvo at 6:59 PM
> >>
> >> Cheers
> >>
> >> Paul
> >>
> >> paul.leake@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>
> >>
> >>
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> >>
> >> Paul
> >>
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> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Peter Beasley" <pjbeasley@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> To: <tafn@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 12:02 PM
> >> Subject: [access-uk] Intel debuts text reader for the blind
> >>
> >>
> >> > I'm sure we will see this device in this country sooner or later.
> >> >
> >> > Intel debuts text reader for the blind
> >> > http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-10394236-93.html
> >> > Intel is doing its part to help people with sight or reading
> >> > disabilities enjoy the written word.
> >> > The company announced on Tuesday the debut of the Intel Reader, a
> >> > handheld text-to-speech device that can read any printed text
> aloud
> >> to
> >> > those who are blind or have difficulties seeing or reading.
> >> > The Atom-powered device uses a high-resolution camera to capture
> >> images
> >> > of any printed text, which it then converts into digital format to
> >> read
> >> > out loud. The Reader can be used as a standalone device to snap
> >> pictures
> >> > of text. But paired with Intel's Portable Capture Station, which
> can
> >> > hold the Reader in place, the device can grab huge amounts of
> text,
> >> such
> >> > as an entire book, according to Intel.
> >> > "We are proud to offer the Intel Reader as a tool for people who
> have
> >> > trouble reading standard print so they can more easily access the
> >> > information many of us take for granted every day, such as reading
> a
> >> job
> >> > offer letter or even the menu at a restaurant," said Louis Burns,
> >> vice
> >> > president and general manager of Intel's Digital Health Group, in
> a
> >> > statement.
> >> > A check at some of the retailers selling the Intel Reader revealed
> >> its
> >> > base price to be $1,499, with the Portable Capture Station an
> >> additional
> >> > $399.
> >> > Weighing one pound, the Reader is the size of a paperback book.
> The
> >> > tactile buttons and voice-operated menus that control the device
> have
> >> > been designed so sightless people can use it, Intel said.
> Individuals
> >> > with poor vision can also zoom in or out of the display and
> increase
> >> the
> >> > font size of its text.
> >> > The 5-megapixel, autofocus camera can snap a picture of text
> anywhere
> >> > from 4 inches to 1.1 yards. The content itself is stored on a 4GB
> >> > solid-state drive, which Intel says can hold up to 600 processed
> >> pages
> >> > (images and text) or 500,000 text-only pages.
> >> > Users of the device can create MP3 versions of printed text to be
> >> played
> >> > on computers and music players. Certain audio books can also be
> >> loaded
> >> > from computers directly onto the Reader.
> >> > The idea for the Reader sprang from Ben Foss, an Intel researcher
> who
> >> > learned in elementary school that he suffered from dyslexia. As an
> >> > adult, he continued to face challenges reading, unable to find
> many
> >> of
> >> > his favorite books and journals in audio format.
> >> > "As someone who is part of this dyslexic community, I am thrilled
> to
> >> be
> >> > able to help level the playing field for people who, like me, do
> not
> >> > have easy access to the printed word," said Foss in a statement.
> "The
> >> > Intel Reader is a tool that can help give people with dyslexia,
> >> > low-vision, blindness, or other reading-based disabilities access
> to
> >> the
> >> > resources they need to participate and be successful in school,
> work
> >> and
> >> > life."
> >> > Intel said that the Reader has been endorsed by the International
> >> > Dyslexia Association as an important advance in assistive
> technology.
> >> > The company is working with organizations such as Lighthouse
> >> > International, the National Center for Learning Disabilities, and
> the
> >> > National Federation of the Blind to reach out to people who have
> >> trouble
> >> > reading printed text.
> >> > The device will be available in the U.S. through select resellers,
> >> > including CTL, Don Johnston Incorporated, GTSI, Howard Technology
> >> > Solutions, and HumanWare.
> >> > Like other tech companies, Intel has ventured into the health care
> >> > market with new products and services. In 2007, the company
> launched
> >> the
> >> > Motion C5, a device to help hospitals better monitor and measure
> >> patient
> >> > data. Earlier this year, Intel and GE announced a new alliance to
> >> > develop health care technologies for seniors.
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