[access-uk] Re: Indenting websites on Braille displays

  • From: "Adrian Higginbotham" <adrian.higginbotham@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2007 12:57:20 +0100

no browsers currently support the ability to specify different media
within style sheets EG for a CSS to display information in ne way for a
screen and differently for a screenreaders speech synth or braille
display even though it is theoreticly possible with the stylesheet
itself. so, it's because of the level of detail of information that
firefox is passing to jaws. obviously firefox can only pass the
information on if it is on the website being viewed so apparently it is
on the bbc site.  all to do with the degree of standards conformance of
the browser.
the next release of the opera browser, version 9.5 I think, is suppose
to include some level at least of screenreader support which should be
good news too as opera are excellent at follow web standards and have
done much in the arena of accessibility overall.

Adrian Higginbotham

Accessibility content manager

British Educational Communications and Technology Agency - BECTA
Tel: Direct dial 024 7679 7333 - Becta switchboard 02476-416994.

Email: Adrian.Higginbotham@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Web: http://www.becta.org.uk/
BECTA, Millburn Hill Road, Science Park, Coventry, CV4 7JJ 



From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Damon Rose
Sent: 07 August 2007 12:40
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Indenting websites on Braille displays 

HI there. 

I note that Mozilla Firefox with JAWS 8 displays the BBC News web page
very logically if you have a braille display. It's something of a useful
revelation actually, the way it indents some content to help you
understand the page more easily.

Though I noted this on the BBC news site, I haven't seen Firefox do it
anywhere else yet. 

Question for today: can you alter internet explorer or JAWS so that
braille indenting occurs? So that, for instance, nested lists and
headings actually make sense and look nested rather than just saying
they are? Spoken nests are, in my opinion, too complex to get your head
round oftentimes. Indents not words please. 

Any light anyone can shed on indenting with braille displays on the web
much appreciated. 



Damon Rose 
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