[access-uk] Re: In Touch
- From: George Bell <george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2013 08:59:49 +0000
Just to keep you all in the picture ICEB (International Council for English
Braille), who chairman in Peter Osborne, are currently drafting a letter to
Apple, albeit in relation to the braille side of things. However, it all help
increase the awareness and importance of accessibility.
George.
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From: access-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Ian Macrae
Sent: 22 October 2013 08:49
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: In Touch
I completely support Steve's view that we should act collectively as individual
Apple users and not leave it to charities. Apple are much more likely to
respond to customer wants and feedback because everything they do is driven by
solid business reasoning. Ten years ago I remember hassling Apple from the In
Touch seat to make the then iPod even a little bit accessible. I was told it
just wasn't on their agenda and nothing anyone could say would put it there.
In the end they did the sums and realised that for their communication products
there was likely to be a significant global market if they made them accessible
to all. I don't mean to decry what may be the well-meaning efforts of RNIB,
but they best they can do is feedback and humbly request improvements. If, on
the other hand, customers suggest that the market may be hit if changes don't
come, that's likely to be more effective.
On 22 Oct 2013, at 08:39, Steve Nutt wrote:
> Hi Eleanor,
>
> You should know by now that Apple are a law unto themselves. It will
> only get fixed if or when they decide it will.
>
> There are more bugs than just for low vision users in iOS 7. In fact
> someone tweeted that the best thing about this beta is that no-one had
> to pay for it <Smile>.
>
> Anyway I don't think anything RNIB or anyone else says will make Apple
> any quicker. So everyone write to accessibility@xxxxxxxxx if you want
> these issues fixed, don't rely on bodies like RNIB to do all the work.
>
> All the best
>
> Steve
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:access-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Eleanor Burke
> Sent: 21 October 2013 16:45
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] In Touch
>
> In Touch 16 October had an interview with someone from RNIB regarding
> the issues for visually impaired regarding iOS7. I did not feel that
> RNIB who are in communication with Apple are emphasing enough how
> important it is to resolve the accessability issues with Apple as
> these should be addressed by now. I was disappointed in Peter White's
> interviewing of this gentleman as he let him away without answering
> the most important question of all, when would these accessability
> issues be fixed. Instead the chap from RNIB was more concerned with
> us writing to Apple directly but if there is a large body representing
> blind people in the UK, with direct access and given that visually
> impaired people supposedly used and advised on a Beta version of iOS, it sure
> is disappointing.
>
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