[access-uk] Re: I'm outraged!
- From: "Damon Rose" <damon.rose@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 19:02:53 +0100
I do feel for poor old Vanja.
Just to reiterate, it was the very last episode of a long-running cult series
which has broken the rules of TV and also become a web phenomenon.
There are literally millions of pages on the web theorising as to how the show
is going to end.
We're on episode 122 now, the finale, and poor old Vanja got up at 5am to watch
it being simulcast on UK and US television. Another very unusual 'must see'
event they created early this morning.
I would've been terribly disappointed had I got up at 5am. I did consider it
but had already guessed that the first showing wouldn't be audio described. My
girlfriend and I were watching it earlier, incidentally, and it says "live from
the US" on screen every 5 minutes or so. So it was a live feed coming from ABC
in the states; hardly surprising Sky had no opportunity to get it described.
Good debate though and I believe we should be expecting a high service. I'm
hoping that more than 6% of tv shows are to be described when Ofcom goes
through its data. Unless I've already missed the outcome.
-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Scott C
Sent: 24 May 2010 22:59
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: I'm outraged!
But your missing the point Sack.
It wasn't just one show.
It was the show.
It was the mane show the big one so to speak.
Ta Scott.
-----Original Message-----
From: Saqib - Email Address: saqib@xxxxxxxxxxxx Sent On: 24/05/2010 06:54 Sent
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx - Email Address: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: I'm outraged!
Hi Mike. It wasn't the actual message that got my goat this morning. It was the
tone of it. Of course we should be on a level playing field as our sighted
counter parts on numerous levels and that includes transport and general
technology. What I was trying to get across was that it's not a huge
catastrophy if something wasn't recorded in AD for one episode. There have been
plenty of ocations where Corrie hasn't been recorded with AD and yes it's a
nucense on a entertainment level but hay as I said we can't always have it our
way. I'm not saying that people should put up with this if such errors are made
on a regular basis but if its the odd program once in a while then I don't
think it's a huge deal for me personally.
Original message:
> I have to say first that I can sympathise with Saqib, that a sense of
> proportion is always useful. Perhaps keep 'outrage' for the genuinely
> outrageous, like the arrest, detention, torture and generalised
> persecution of blind political activists in China or the necessity for
> Blind and other Disabled People to beg in order to survive in many majority
> world countries!
> Nonetheless, I too can see Scott's point. TV is a comparatively
> recent invention. AD is there to remove the barriers that we as Blind
> Disabled People experience when accessing it. It is perfectly
> acceptable to expect it to be there . It is not something in the 21st
> century for which we should feel grateful or thankful, any more than
> we should for the removal of any other barrier which, if left in
> place, Leeds to our segregation or exclusion.
> Saqib I agree that 'outraged' is perhaps a tad O.T.T, but then I have
> no idea what 'Lost' is and therefore don't feel that strongly about it
> on a personal level. If I did and was trying to follow it, I might
> feel more angry that the AD which aught to have been part of the
> broadcast was omitted.
> Our expectations of equal treatment as Blind People, including the
> provision of AD, should not be tempered by gratitude or any sense of
> diffidence. We strive to be equal citizens with the right to be
> included and treated equally, in the society in which we live. Where
> it is typical for people to be able to access such facilities as
> colour TV, why should Blind People have to tolerate any less than
> equivalent reliable treatment than those with sight.
> Best wishes,
> Mike Higgins,
> Email: m.j.higgins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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