[access-uk] Re: IMAP AND/OR POP3

  • From: "Carol Pearson" <carol.pearson29@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 12:07:28 -0000

Yes, it does - and thanks!

I'm going to give it a go, at least with Googlemail to start with, and see how 
things go.

Thanks for your help and time in explaining this to me.  It's much appreciated.


---- Original Message ----
From: Ibrahim Gucukoglu
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 10:53 AM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: IMAP AND/OR POP3

> Hi Carol.
> Basically, if you use imap, your mail remains on the server at the
> mail provider until you move, delete or otherwise manipulate it. 
> Therefore, any device whether it be phone, computer or web interface
> can see the messages in your inbox.  Any changes you make to the
> messages in your inbox or other folders will be reflected in all your
> applications.  Pop was an old protocol for use in the pre broadband
> age where people would use dialup to access the internet.  Messages
> would be downloaded to your computer and then deleted from the mail
> server so once on your computer, you would only be able to access
> them from there.  Simply put, if you only use one computer to access
> the internet and don't often access your mail from public computers
> or your phone, your probably OK with pop3 so long as you remember to
> back up your mail folders containing your important mail in case of
> computer failure.  If you want your emails stored server side where
> all your devices and computers can access them, you'll have to
> configure imap.               
> I hope this explains things for you.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Carol Pearson
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 10:30 AM
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: IMAP AND/OR POP3
> OK, Ibrahim, that was a good little list!
> I just don't understand how useful it will be to see email in real
> time.  For example, how I will be able to move it into folders and/or
> look it up.  Is it really the case that somehow you can see the
> folders in your home Outlook Express, or is this just meant for mail
> which you usually use on the WEB?  (I think the latter, but the
> former would be jolly useful sometimes!)     
> If you're able to clarify this point it would be good and meantime
> I'll check whether I can use IMAP for all my accounts.  I know you
> can with Google but have to check out NTL as well.  
>> Hi Carol.
>> Take a look at this information I pulled from my mail provider's
>> frequently asked questions.  I believe it covers most of the reasons
>> and differences between the two protocols.  You'll have to find out
>> whether imap is provided with your email service, as some only
>> provide pop access.
>> POP is a very simple protocol that only allows downloading of
>> messages from your Inbox to your local computer. Generally, once
>> transferred, the email is then on your local computer and is removed
>> from your mail server (it is possible to leave them on the server,
>> but they all stay in the Inbox).
>> IMAP is a much more advanced protocol that allows you to see all your
>> folders on the mail server , and quickly view subjects and message
>> bodies of emails, but delay downloading of larger emails (such as
>> those with attachments) to a later time if you want. IMAP also allows
>> you to synchronise mail folders between your home machine and on the
>> web, so that you see the same folders and messages wherever and
>> however you access your email.
>> FlexibilityCan view just message headers, and then choose which
>> messages to downloadHave to download all messages at once
>> Can delete/move a message without having to download itHave to
>> download all messages
>> Can download just text body of a messageHave to download entire
>> message (including any large attachments)
>> SynchronisationCan view messages in all foldersCan only download
>> messages from Inbox
>> Any changes made via web interface or email software (eg move
>> message, add flags, etc) appears in the other automaticallyOnce
>> downloaded, changes only made on local email software
>> Can access messages both at home/work, and on the road through the
>> web interfaceOnce downloaded, can only access messages at home/work
>> SafetyAll messages kept on FastMail.FM servers, including realtime
>> replication to a backup server, and nightly incremental backups of
>> all emails to yet another server kept for 1 weekOnce downloaded, copy
>> only exists on your local computer, if it crashes, email is lost (it
>> is possible to leave messages on the server, but all messages stay in
>> the Inbox)
>> To understand the power and usefulness of IMAP, we recommend you look
>> through the following example usage scenario using Outlook Express.
>> If you feel you need further help or explanation, please feel free to
>> email me privately and I'll be happy to talk to you by phone about
>> the options and benefits open to you.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Carol Pearson
>> To: Access UK Mailing List
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 4:48 PM
>> Subject: [access-uk] IMAP AND/OR POP3
>> Hi all,
>> Having decided to take some email on my phone, I am wanting to
>> understand more about the differences I will experience if I decide
>> to use IMAP as opposed to POP3 for my NTL and Googlemail accounts.
>> I understand, basically, that it's reckoned that IMAP is more stable
>> (not giving extra copies of mail where this sometimes occurs with
>> POP3), but I need to know more specifically how this will affect my
>> day to day working.  I don't use Google online but still much prefer
>> to download to Outlook Express.  In the case of POP3, everything
>> comes into my In-box unless I specify to the contrary.  Will this be
>> the same with my Outlook Express if using IMAP?
>> Do I need to set my phone and computer(s) all to use IMAP to get
>> everything working correctly?
>> Thanks for anything that you can offer on this.

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