Hi Terry, Well I've had my iphone 16gb 3gs for just over a week now and I have to say I'm loving it.. Previously I had an N70 with Talks on it which I'd been happy with but I thought it was time for an upgrade and so I started seriously looking into the Iphone / new Nokia's. I was looking at getting a new Nokia n86 which is a really good phone with an 8mp camera, perfect for using with KNFB reader and had got apparently decent built in GPS, 8gb internal memory and decent buttons. I was also seriously thinking of getting Wayfinder Access. When I costed it all up however the cost of the phone upgrade, switch of Talks licence to the new phone and Wayfinder was a minimum of £360. I then also read some stuff about Talks not working properly with email / the internet on the N86. I then started listening to various podcasts on the Iphone 3gs and have been on the viphone email list for a few weeks. The more I researched the more I was seriously torn between a new Nokia and taking the plunge for an iphone. No cost wasn't the primary issue but it actually cost me less to get my iphone and in my view it can do a lot more. Granted there is at present not a fully accessible gps navigation program however the inbuilt maps and compass is quite useful and I have heard of people using some of the mainstream GPS software with some success although granted there is nothing as yet as blindness specific as Wayfinder. Yes it is also true that using the on-screen keyboard is a challenge at times and I'm probably sending less texts than I was before but my speed is improving and one thing I have noticed is that although it is slower to start with I am speeding up with practice and I'm getting a lot less RSI related pains in my wrist from using the small keypad of my N70. What I do love about the iphone however is the very natural speech you get, the fact you can turn the speech on and off with 2 simple gestures and likewise you can turn the screen off with a simply;e gesture and still have the speech which not only saves battery but also means you can use it without people seeing what you're doing (yes they can hear but not if you have the headphones in!). I also love the fact I can easily have my emails, launch links from within them and I've found myself using it to surf the web far more than I ever did in the 3 years of having my N70. There are also some decent aps out there for using things like twitter, Sky News, checking the weather etc - no not all are 100% accessible but there is usually a way around it and the developers seem open to feedback and fixes often get done. Oh and I love the fact I have an ipod that I can use either with speech or by using my voice. I did have an ipod a few years ago which I tried to use with Rockbox but gave up in the end but this is so easy with the iphone. Yes there is the issue of Jaws and Itunes but this is certainly useable and getting better all the time. Ok so that's a very rough snapshot of what I@ve discovered in a week. The bottom line is I know the the iphone isn't for everyone and I wouldn't suggest it is but I don't regret switching and I love discovering new things on a daily basis about what I can do with it..oh and I'm told it looks very nice too and doesn't in any way look like a blindness specific thing. So there you go...do feel free to email me off list if you have any further questions, as I say I'm no expert but I'm happy to share my experiences thus far! Cheers, Phil _____ From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of terry cooper Sent: 12 November 2009 13:56 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] I phone 3gs Hi all Is there anyone using the above phone? I was considering one, but wanted to really know why some people are saying how good they are. I'm currently using a nokia N82 which suits most of my needs. Its got a quick and responsive speech, wayfinder, knfb reader. I hear the I phone has thousand of applications that can be put on it, and an awful lot of them are accessible. Does it have OCR recognition like knfb? An accessible gps system? Is it easy to text by using the touch screen? Any first hand knowledge would be very welcome. Thanks Terry __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4601 (20091112) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4601 (20091112) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com