Yes you shouldn't have to go out and get an I phone just to use this site! On 28/03/2014 15:25, vanja@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
That may be the case that the app is accessible, but it doesn’t mean that the website shouldn’t be. *From:*access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Ibrahim Gucukoglu *Sent:* 28 March 2014 15:13 *To:* access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx *Subject:* [access-uk] Re: Hungry House Hi If you have an iPhone, iPod or iPad you can use the app, it's much easier and our use hungryhouse all the time when I want a takeaway so I have no reason or cause to complain about the service. Sent from my iPhone On 28 Mar 2014, at 14:52, <vanja@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:vanja@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote: Interestingly they have just sent me a survey about what I think of their website and how they’re doing. They will certainly not get a positive feedback. Granted their competitors http://justeat.co.uk site has still a lot of room for improvement as well, but at least I can use it. *From:*access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Vincent Thacker *Sent:* 28 March 2014 12:32 *To:* access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> *Subject:* [access-uk] Re: Hungry House Sounds like a good one for Web Pages That Suck. http://www.webpagesthatsuck.com/ As you indicate, even the HTML is way off. The W3C validator finds 125 HTML errors, plus many warnings. Term 1 fail! Vince. ======================================== Message Received: Mar 28 2014, 09:11 AM From: "Jonathan H" To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Cc: Subject: [access-uk] Re: Hungry House Wow - where do I even begin to start with this mess. I'm a sighted user mainly using Chromevox for learning and testing, and it wasn't at all accessible. I did eventually manage to get to the results, but it required endless tabbing, and the results are not presented as a list. Not only is there no use of even the most basic ARIA accessibility markup, there isn't even the most basic correct use of HTML tags, markup and landmarks. Literally everything is wrong with this page, not just from an accessibility viewpoint but also the encoding is wrong, the developers have no clue how to optimize, the markup is appalling - well, I'll leave you to draw your own conclusions from the test report results below, but bearing in mind this won Dragons Den funding, I'll bet the site developers charged tens of thousands. ALL pages fail on almost all basic accessibility checks at http://try.powermapper.com/Reports/2c6d61ee-683d-47f1-b825-60dc8d6473eb/report/map.ACC.htm. And according to accessibility guideline checker http://achecker.ca, that one menu page you mentioned has 499 definite problems and 1032 potential problems. The offficial W3 validator shows 65 hard fail errors. http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fhungryhouse.co.uk%2Ftakeaways%2Fsouthwark-waterloo-bermondsey-borough-se1&charset=%28detect+automatically%29&doctype=Inline&group=0 It also has a mobile version of the site, but again this fails and is a navigation nightmare. Have a try if you have any more luck with this - I didn't get far on Chromevox. http://hungryhouse.co.uk/~m/takeaways/fulham-parsons-green-sw61lg/Indian/0-20 On 27 March 2014 23:02, wrote: > Hello listers, > > > > Has anyone recently tried to use http://www.hungryhouse.co.uk with any > screenreader. For various reasons that are not particularly relevant at the > moment I temporarily only have access to jaws. When clicking on a restaurant > you are presented with the menu. At the top there are several menu > categories E.G. starters, main dishes, ETC. Below the list of various menu > categories there is a currently selected category shown as a heading and one > can choose to add dishes from that particular category to their basket. When > you first click on the restaurant a menu category is chosen as a default > (usually starters or often 'most popular'). Normally, as I said, you need to > click on another menu category to change it, but from recently, at least > with jaws 15 if I click on another menu category, it doesn't actually change > it. As an example if clicking on http://hungryhouse.co.uk/chamisse-lebanese > the default category when you first click on the restaurant is 'most > popular', if I click on anything else such as starters or main dishes when I > go down to the heading the focus still stays on 'most popular'. I tried > using jaws cursor to click on to the different category, but this didn't > help. I wonder if anyone else had same issues. > > > > As I said, using latest version of jaws 15 and latest version of IE 11. I > also wonder if this really is a screenreader issue or if this is some sort > of issue with the website so if anyone is on here that does not use > screenreader it would be interesting to report, because if this can be done > successfully without a screenreader, or maybe even with other screenreader > this may be a jaws specific issue rather than the website. Obviously it > would be interesting if this happens with other browsers. One solution might > be to run IE in compatibility mode, but I didn't use to have problems with > this site on IE 11 before, though of course developers might have changed > something in the code to make this not function properly in IE. > > > > Anyway, if anyone can test it both with jaws and another > screenreader/browser please let us know. > > > > Thanks. ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> with the Subject:- faq
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