[access-uk] Re: How good is the KNFB reader

  • From: "Ibrahim Gucukoglu" <ibrahim_gucukoglu@xxxxxxxx>
  • To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 05:02:20 -0000

Hi James.

While I appreciate that it is an everyday practical tool for some, price is certainly one of the biggest issues in access technology. Of course different people have different needs, but access tech needn't be expensive. As I said to you and as others will surely agree, talks, mobile speaks and wayfinder are all invaluable tools to all mobile phone users yet they don't cost £695 or even close to that. Even if you were to buy a wayfinder and talks or mobile speaks symbian license, the most you would ever pay would be £350, just over half the price of KNFB reader. While I agree that KNFB reader is surely a wonderful tool, I think it is about time that the price of such tools should be evaluated to take in to consideration the number of visually impaired people who can ill afford it. To hammer the point home, I believe code factory do a couple of tools for Symbian phones including a colour detector, bar code scanner and even a daisy player and neither of these cost as much as the KNFB software. Also, £695 is the average monthly take for someone on disability benefits. Jackie was certainly right when she said about access technology pricing being an emotive issue.

All the best, Ibrahim.


----- Original Message ----- From: "James Scholes" <james@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "Edward Green" <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 10:51 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: How good is the KNFB reader


Hi,

While I agree with you all about the ridiculous price of the KNFB Reader, just think how much use you would get out of it? I know people who use it for all their reading needs, not just when they're out and about. So, I think before you go talking about how much it costs, just think, would I use it? If the answer is an outright yes, then the price shouldn't be an issue as it is an invaluable tool to most people.

James Scholes
http://www.jls-radio.com

-----Original Message-----
Sent by Edward Green on Tuesday, February 03, 2009 at 10:19 PM

Hi,

I have to agree with Ibrahim for the unreasonable cost of the KNFB Reader.

This is brought home by the fact that Abbyy, the producers of Fine Reader,
make a program for Symbian phones that will scan business cards and OCR them
for £10.  It's a pity that they haven't expanded this to scan larger
documents.

This would require the makers of KNFB Reader to reassess their pricing
policy.

Ed

-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Peter Beasley
Sent: 03 February 2009 13:22
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: How good is the KNFB reader

I no that Jackie But there are a lot of us who don't have a job or are
retired who have no sighted assistance.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Jackie Cairns" <jackie.cairns@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 12:59 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: How good is the KNFB reader


Hi Peter

I don't want to get into that, and it wasn't what Barry originally
posted to enquire about.


Jackie Cairns
Braille Support Adviser
Email: Jackie.Cairns@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sight and Sound Technology
Welton House North Wing
Summerhouse Road
Moulton Park
Northampton
NN3 6WD
Telephone: 01604 798024
Fax: 01604 798090
Web: www.sightandsound.co.uk

-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Peter Beasley
Sent: 03 February 2009 12:52
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: How good is the KNFB reader

Pity more of us can't aford it.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jackie Cairns" <jackie.cairns@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 12:40 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: How good is the KNFB reader


Hi Barry

Wearing my user hat, I think it's a great piece of kit.  There are many
occasions where I just can't be bothered to turn on the PC, or I've just
turned it off and discover I need to scan something.  The phone is great
for that, and you can wear headphones for private listening.

Like most things, there is a knack to using it, and once you grasp the
concept of holding the phone above your document so that it takes a good
picture of the text, then it really is very good.

For what it's worth, I bought the original K-NFB Reader Classic long
before I worked here, and was always interested in the phone version
when it came out just before I started working for Sight and Sound, so
I'm not advertising, merely giving you an honest user perspective as I
see it.  Honestly, it's one of my very favourite things.


Jackie Cairns
Braille Support Adviser
Email: Jackie.Cairns@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sight and Sound Technology
Welton House North Wing
Summerhouse Road
Moulton Park
Northampton
NN3 6WD
Telephone: 01604 798024
Fax: 01604 798090
Web: www.sightandsound.co.uk

-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Barry Hill
Sent: 03 February 2009 11:52
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] How good is the KNFB reader

Hi all

Although I do get quite a lot of information by email before meetings
that I attend, there are the inevitable last minute documents that are
handed out.  I've read up on the KNFB Reader, but the blurb is by the
makers and distributors, those with a vested interest.

So, I was wondering what anyone who is actually using it thinks of it's
performance.  Does it read documents accurately?  Is it quick and easy
to use? Is it intrusive?

Many thanks

Barry

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