[access-uk] Re: How accessible ar I phones?

  • From: "Hussein Patwa" <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 22:08:02 +0100

Hi,

Do you know if they will release one for the S60 platform also?

It'd be just as sad to see everyone jumping onto the iPhone bandwagon and
leaving S60 users in the lurch.

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-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Dean Wilcox
Sent: 04 April 2010 21:31
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: How accessible ar I phones?

On the accessibility topick, its nice to see that soon we should have an
accessible UK National Rail Enquiries app, apparently it is going into beta
soon.


On 4 Apr 2010, at 12:38, Hussein Patwa wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> It's not, but in a bid to keep customers on the Apple train they did make
it
> clear that keeping accessibility as a focus was 'very' much in the best
> interests of the developer if they wanted their app to be Apple certified.
> 
> Personally I think we're going to go down the Nokia route and everyone
will
> just end up doing their own thing.  I don't think Apple have the pull they
> seem to think they do on the app development market at the moment, as not
> sticking with them in terms of market delivery is hardly an economic
burden
> on the developer at the moment.
> 
> H.
> 
> 
> 
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> 
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> 
> Hussein.
> 
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of
> Dean Wilcox
> Sent: 04 April 2010 18:55
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: How accessible ar I phones?
> 
> I wasn't aware accessibility was mandatory.
>  Compatibility with 3rd party apps is good, I wouldn't like to give a
> percentage of success but I always feal like it is worth a go just to see.
> On 3 Apr 2010, at 17:01, Hussein Patwa wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> A couple of points I wanted to query:
>> 
>> 1.  You mention Apple apps and some third party apps are accessible with
>> voiceover.  Now if we assume Apple would want the vast majority, if not
> all
>> apps to be accessible if only so people will use them and continue to buy
>> from them, what do you think of the move now by developers to not go
> through
>> the Apple Store for ap marketing due to their tightened quality control
>> measures?  I've heard from quite a few dev's who've said they are
> basically
>> going to go open market with their apps and damn the Apple store.
> Obviously
>> whereas this is good for consumer choice, it'll have a definite impact on
>> accessibility as it is no longer a mandatory criteria for app
> certification
>> (loosely speaking).
>> 
>> 2.  Regarding the iPhone 4.0, you might want to look into the iPhone HD
>> which Apple are rumoured to be bringing out in May/June.  Also, firmware
>> updates for the current iPhone series.  Personally I hope it's sooner
> rather
>> than later so we can at least get the Jailbreak fix the mods have been
>> sitting on since 3.13 firmware was released.
>> 
>> 3. Is there any substance to the rumour that v4 firmware will bring
>> multi-tasking to the whole range of compatible devices?
>> 
>> Best,
>> 
>> _______________________________________
>> Have a pleasant day,
>> 
>> Kind Regards and Best Wishes,
>> 
>> Hussein.
>> 
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>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
> Of
>> James & Nash
>> Sent: 02 April 2010 12:44
>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: How accessible ar I phones?
>> 
>> Hi Audrey,
>> 
>> The Iphone 3GS series now come with Voice Over, which gives complete
> access
>> to all of the applications on the phone. From what I have heard, there
are
>> many other third party applications which also work with Voice Over.
>> 
>> As you are probably aware, the IPhone is a touch screen device, but from
> my
>> initial exploration, it seems very intuitive once you get the hang of it.
>> Niether of us have one yet, but we're looking into the possibility for
the
>> future. 
>> 
>> Many blind people have switched to the IPhone and are very happy with it
> by
>> all accounts. The only warning I would give is that like all Apple
> products,
>> the IPhone is considerably more expensive than your standard cell phone.
> But
>> the initial cost is nothing compared to the gains that you will be
getting
>> from an in-built Screen Reader. If I were you though I would wait for a
> few
>> more months though as Apple are slated to release IPhone 4.0 in June. I
do
>> not know if this is purely a software upgrade or a brand new cell phone.
> If
>> it is the latter, then the older models may come down in price. 
>> 
>> Hope this helps 
>> 
>> TC
>> James, Lyn, Nash & Twinny
>> On 1 Apr 2010, at 11:39, Audrey Tonge wrote:
>> 
>>> HI all.
>>> 
>>> I am probably way behind here, but wanted to know how accessible
I-phones
> 
>>> are these days for totally blind users?  I can now get web access and am

>>> often better off using a mobile in various situations in my life.  Just 
>>> wondered if they are worth going for?
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> 
>>> Audrey 
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