[access-uk] Re: Happy 20th Birthday, JAWS for Windows

  • From: Saqib Hussain <saqibh23@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2015 09:09:36 +0000

I wasn't refering to magnification Eleanor so I don't know why you had
to dive in and tell me it's no good for you. I clearly stated why I
prefered it to Jaws so there.

On 30/01/2015, Eleanor Martha Burke <eleanormarthaburke@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> I am not looking for cracked copies.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "James English" <james13english@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 10:27 AM
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Happy 20th Birthday, JAWS for Windows
>
>
>> Jaws is free if you know where to get it.
>>
>> On 1/30/15, Eleanor Martha Burke <eleanormarthaburke@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> System Access magnification is not high enough for me, I need something
>>> better.
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Saqib Hussain" <saqibh23@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 9:12 AM
>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Happy 20th Birthday, JAWS for Windows
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi. I could never justify the cost of Jaws so I went for System Access
>>>> 7 years ago. I still now couldn't get use to using Jaws because my own
>>>> screenreader does everything so well for me and it just flows.
>>>>
>>>> On 29/01/2015, Eleanor Martha Burke <eleanormarthaburke@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> I found when I started at the Opoen University, they knew all about
>>>>> JAWS
>>>>>
>>>>> as
>>>>>
>>>>> a screen reader and had it loaded on computers for accessability at
>>>>> some
>>>>> courses I attended but they didn't have a clue about Dolphin Supernova
>>>>> which
>>>>>
>>>>> is my screen reader on Windows.  While people do knock it, its great
>>>>> advantage is the magnification and speech together.  True there is
>>>>> Magic
>>>>> which can be used in conjunction with JAWS but at such a price!
>>>>> Nobody
>>>>> has
>>>>>
>>>>> mentioned Zoomtext, though it has magnification and speech I favour
>>>>> Dolphin
>>>>>
>>>>> Supernova above it.
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Derek Hornby" <derek.hornby_uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2015 7:12 PM
>>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Happy 20th Birthday, JAWS for Windows
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Well  I think most Jaws customers  are employers of the users!
>>>>>> or the  customers are the  government as in say access to work.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So most users won't care how much jaws costs,  if not paying
>>>>>> personally!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Derek
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>>>>>> Behalf Of Mike Ray
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2015 12:17 PM
>>>>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Happy 20th Birthday, JAWS for Windows
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And I don't suppose anybody else who is an avid Jaws user can afford
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> throw a party, after paying for the thing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 29/01/2015 10:42, Jackie Brown wrote:
>>>>>>> Wish I could throw a party, but I have no inclination! (smile).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jackie Brown
>>>>>>> Emails: thebrownsplace@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>> Jackieannbrown62@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>> jackie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>> Website: www.thebrownsplace.info
>>>>>>> Twitter: @thebrownsplace
>>>>>>> Skype: thejackmate
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>>>>>> Behalf Of
>>>>>>> Colin Howard
>>>>>>> Sent: 28 January 2015 20:26
>>>>>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Happy 20th Birthday, JAWS for Windows
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Greetings,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Seen on the VicugL group, thought it may be of interest! Shows how
>>>>>> rapidly
>>>>>>> time passes!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From: David Goldfield <david.goldfield@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>> Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2015 20:46:24 -0500
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Episode 102 of Freedom Scientific's FSCast podcast reminds us that
>>>>>> 2015
>>>>>>> marks the 20th anniversary of the JAWS for Windows screen reader. In
>>>>>> fact,
>>>>>>> Jonathan Mosen reminds us that January is, in fact, the month in
>>>>>> which JAWS
>>>>>>> turned 20. I remember installing and using JFW 1.0 back in  January
>>>>>> of 1995
>>>>>>> and I thought I'd dedicate this short blog post to some  of my early
>>>>>>> memories of that product and of that time in general.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In 1995, I was working for Blazie Engineering providing technical
>>>>>> support.
>>>>>>> Windows 3.1 was a fairly well-established operating system with
>>>>>> several
>>>>>>> Windows screen readers already available, including Blazie's own
>>>>>> Windows
>>>>>>> Master which I believe was already out at that time. While I had
>>>>>> used
>>>>>>> Windows 3.1 and was familiar with it on a very basic level, I was a
>>>>>> edicated
>>>>>>> DOS user. While I was very familiar with Vocal-eyes and JAWS for
>>>>>> DOS, ASAP
>>>>>>> from Microtalk was my screen reader of choice, along with a trusty
>>>>>> Braille
>>>>>>> 'n Speak as my speech synthesizer.
>>>>>>> It was during the end of 1994 or the very beginning of 1995 when we
>>>>>> received
>>>>>>> our boxed copy of JAWS for Windows 1.0, with January 19, 1995 being
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> official launch date of that product. If you really want to read a
>>>>>> piece of
>>>>>>> classic assistive technology history, you can, courtesy of the
>>>>>> Internet
>>>>>>> Archive's Wayback Machine, read the December 1994 Henter-Joyce
>>>>>> newsletter
>>>>>>> which, among other things, contains the big announcement regarding
>>>>>> JFW 1.0.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Around this time, I found out I had enlarged tonsils which needed to
>>>>>> be
>>>>>>> removed. As I constantly used my voice to do my job, it was
>>>>>> recommended I
>>>>>>> stay home for two weeks during my recuperation. This was, I decided,
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> perfect time to finally dive into Windows 3.1 with our new copy of
>>>>>> JAWS for
>>>>>>> Windows, version 1.0.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The box contained a collection of cassette tapes with tutorials
>>>>>> recorded by
>>>>>>> Eric Damery and Ted Henter. Eric's voice is very familiar to JAWS
>>>>>> users as
>>>>>>> he annually introduces the new features which are being added to new
>>>>>> JAWS
>>>>>>> versions. Eric has participated in these recordings since the very
>>>>>> beginning
>>>>>>> of JFW and, even in the 1.0 days, was a fabulous and professional
>>>>>> presenter.
>>>>>>> I think the product was often referred to as JFW or JAWS for Windows
>>>>>> more
>>>>>>> than it is today as Henter-Joyce wanted to distinguish it from the
>>>>>> other
>>>>>>> JAWS product which ran on DOS machines.
>>>>>>> Once I listened to some of the tutorials, I installed the product
>>>>>> onto my
>>>>>>> Windows 3.1 machine from the included 3.5 inch floppy disks,
>>>>>> followed by the
>>>>>>> authorization key, also on a floppy, a form of copy protection I had
>>>>>>> previously never heard of and was having some difficulty wrapping my
>>>>>> mind
>>>>>>> around. After all, in those days most software packages never had
>>>>>> any sort
>>>>>>> of copy protection; you installed it and then used it.
>>>>>>> Well, the installation and authorization process went smoothly and,
>>>>>> soon
>>>>>>> thereafter, I had JFW working with my trusty Bns 640. After all, for
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> most part we had no software-based synthesizers at that time and so
>>>>>> you
>>>>>>> needed a bns, Accent, Artic, Audapter, Dec-talk or Doubletalk to get
>>>>>> speech,
>>>>>>> with no Braille support at that time.
>>>>>>> They wanted JFW to feel like JAWS for DOS by giving it a PC cursor
>>>>>> as well
>>>>>>> as a JAWS cursor. It included the insert-G hotkey to label graphics
>>>>>> and the
>>>>>>> insert-T hotkey to read the window title, two features we didn't
>>>>>> really need
>>>>>>> in DOS. Insert-down arrow was the "say all" key and the other keys
>>>>>> on the
>>>>>>> numeric keypad tried to emulate what we were used to with JFD. I
>>>>>> remember
>>>>>>> this first version crashing quite a lot but this was quickly fixed
>>>>>> in an
>>>>>>> update which I probably downloaded from the Henter-Joyce BBS.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you're curious about what was added in JFW 2.0, you can go to
>>>>>> their
>>>>>>> announcement on an old version of the Henter-Joyce home page, also
>>>>>> courtesy
>>>>>>> of the Internet Archive.
>>>>>>> Those early versions would have seemed so limited to us compared to
>>>>>> what we
>>>>>>> have today, but back then it was cutting-edge technology. The JAWS
>>>>>> cursor
>>>>>>> could only move within the active window. When using the Internet,
>>>>>> you had
>>>>>>> to press insert-f5 to reformat the page, which you read using the
>>>>>> JAWS
>>>>>>> cursor. You couldn't freely navigate through a Web page using
>>>>>> standard
>>>>>>> reading commands with the PC cursor the way you can with any screen
>>>>>> reader
>>>>>>> today. If my memory is correct, that capability didn't get
>>>>>> implemented until
>>>>>>> version 3.31. In fact, the ability to use single letter navigation
>>>>>> keys,
>>>>>>> such as pressing H for heading or N to jump to the next block of
>>>>>> text wasn't
>>>>>>> even implemented until a later version, probably around 3.5.
>>>>>>> What more can I say, except a happy 20th birthday to JFW, or JAWS as
>>>>>> we now
>>>>>>> call it. JAWS has certainly come a long way in the past 20 years. I
>>>>>> wonder
>>>>>>> what it will be like 20 years from now. I'm sure that it will be
>>>>>> supporting
>>>>>>> Windows 43 or whatever OS Microsoft will have pushed out to us and
>>>>>> we'll all
>>>>>>> have fond memories of running our screen readers on those ancient,
>>>>>> primitive
>>>>>>> Windows 7 computers. It's too bad that the Internet Archive doesn't
>>>>>> supply
>>>>>>> us with snapshots of pages from the future.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Michael A. Ray
>>>>>> Analyst/Programmer
>>>>>> Witley, Surrey, South-east UK
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Don't judge my disability until you witness my ability
>>>>>>
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