[access-uk] Re: HARRY POTTER AND ACCESS TO BOOKS
- From: "Andy Collins" <andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 15:14:36 +0100
Ah well Ian, that makes sense, and is how it should be.
- Andy
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ian Macrae" <ian.macrae@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, July 20, 2007 2:53 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: HARRY POTTER AND ACCESS TO BOOKS
| Correct Andy, most books do have that warning. But I think this is a
| dispensation created for the benefit of people with no access to print.
|
| -----Original Message-----
| From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
| Of Andy Collins
| Sent: 20 July 2007 14:50
| To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
| Subject: [access-uk] Re: HARRY POTTER AND ACCESS TO BOOKS
|
| Yusuf and all -
|
| It makes sense that one should be able to make a copy for one's own use,
| rather like the old days of home taping! I just thought I'd read at the
| front of some books, that no unauthorised copying was permitted
| including digital copies that could be held in retrievable storage, or
| some wording to that effect.
|
| - Andy
| ----- Original Message -----
| From: "Yusuf" <yusufaosman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| Sent: Friday, July 20, 2007 2:42 PM
| Subject: [access-uk] Re: HARRY POTTER AND ACCESS TO BOOKS
|
|
|| Hi andy, Thats not correct. If you have purchased a copy of a book or
| you
|| have the book on loan from a public library you are entitled to make a
|
| copy
|| of the book for your own use in an accessible format of your choice.
||
|| If the book is borrowed from a library, I think you have to remove
| your
|| accesible copy once the book has been returned.
||
|| However if the book is your book, so long as you don't make the
| accessible
|| copy available to others you are perfectly entitled to make an
| accessible
|| version for your own use.
|| Yusuf
||
|| ----- Original Message -----
|| From: "Andy Collins" <andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
|| To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
|| Sent: Friday, July 20, 2007 12:39 PM
|| Subject: [access-uk] Re: HARRY POTTER AND ACCESS TO BOOKS
||
||
|| HARRY POTTER AND ACCESS TO BOOKSIan, can I just clarify this point
| about
|| legality? I thought in the usual blurb about no unauthorised copying
| etc
|| also included taking a digital image, even if it was for one's own use
|
| only;
|| a bit harsh this of course for those who want to buy and scan the
| book!
||
|| - Andy
|| ----- Original Message -----
|| From: Ian Macrae
|| To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
|| Sent: Friday, July 20, 2007 1:30 PM
|| Subject: [access-uk] Re: HARRY POTTER AND ACCESS TO BOOKS
||
||
|| Not sure I follow that logic James. Surely if a blind person with a
|| scanner can go into ASDA, buy the book for a fiver and spend the
| couple of
|| hours or so scanning it, they've been able to take advantage of an
| offer
|| which is open to everyone else and end up with a legally owned copy of
| the
|| book. Meanwhile the person without access to that option is paying
| through
|| the nose with no choice a bout doing so. Added to this is the recent
|| argument there's been over the publishers cover price for the book
| which
| is
|| regarded by many people as too high for anyone. And don't forget,
| hours
|| after the book has been published, there'll be people who have the
|| wherewithal to go and grab it as an illegal scan from the internet for
|
| free.
|| Which all goes to show just what a bugger's muddle the whole thing is.
||
||
||
||
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|| From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
| Behalf
|| Of James O'Dell
|| Sent: 20 July 2007 12:46
|| To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
|| Subject: [access-uk] Re: HARRY POTTER AND ACCESS TO BOOKS
||
||
|| There is also a political point here. It is true that RNIB can't
|| afford to sell the books as a "loss leader", but I think perhaps the
| bigger
|| issue is that they want publishers to come on board with the "same
| book,
|| same time, same price" philosophy, perhaps in time allowing them to
| take
|| their fair share of the revenue as well. RNIB selling the book at a
|| discount would simply reinforce the mistaken view that blind people
| want
|| something for nothing, or at any rate for less than "average" people
| would
|| pay. Any discounts offered by outlets are not under the control of
| the
|| publishers, and I think RNIB are wise to do things "by the book", if
| you'll
|| excuse the pun. There is no point in having equal access to the
| discounts
|| if this ultimately ends up providing publishers with an excuse not to
| give
|| us equal access to the material.
||
|| James
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