hi list andy this is very sad but i personally would never purchase a secon hand computer now as if you look at the computer mags from tnauk the price of new computers has droped to such a digree now it is really amazing. i do see though that the advantage for a blind person is that the computer should be up and running with screen reader software on it. i have not followed this thread from the start but is'nt there a phone number you can ring from disability now or whatever and a volunteer will come out to help you. hope you get it sorted out though there is nothing worse than this happening to you. i am very lucky to be in employment piano tuning so i can afford new things rather than second hand. i do know that steve nutt and terry clasper offer a remote service but you do need your screen reader on your machine for it to work i think. hth. ----- source message ----- from: "Carol Pearson" <carol.pearson29@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> to: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> date: 2009/11/08 23:48:21 subject: [access-uk] Re: Genuin Windows Validation continued. > > > Andy, > > I received a Mountbatten from someone on one of the reseller lists for the > blind once and couldn't get a peep out of it. I ended up throwing it out > and just bearing the loss, so I do know how you feel ... > > I hope those reading who have done these things feel suitably bad, but > perhaps they don't! <GRRR> > > -- > Carol > carol.pearson29@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > On Twitter: http://twitter.com/songbird49a > > ---- Original Message ---- > From: "Andy" <andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 9:41 PM > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Genuin Windows Validation > continued. > > > Hi Barbara. > > > > Unfortunately, I don't know who the Moderator of the > > Re-cycle list is. I had thought it was Graham and had > > written to him, seeking his advice and support. Perhaps > > he will get in touch with me if I write a general enquiry > > to the list. > > No chance of taking a private case for the sake of 225. I trust lawyers > > even less than dodgy list members, though > > I actually do have all my correspondence, and on one of > > these, the seller advises that he will include a legal > > copy of XP Home with the computer for the price we later > > agreed upon. > > I have since earlier mail, written to him, threatening to > > take this to the authorities, if he does not at least > > hounour his agreement to include a legal copy of xp home. > > So Barbara I need to wait and see what comes out of this. > > > > > > Fingers crossed. > > > > Very best wishes. > > Andy. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Barbara Wilson" <barkingbabs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 9:07 PM > > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Genuin Windows Validation > > continued. > > > >ar > >ar I am sure the list moderator will take a very dim view > >ar of this as he will not want people ripping off others on > >ar the list. A note to us all I believe. However, Andy, if > >ar you have copies of Emails from selling saying what he > >ar was selling you and you did not receive the goods you > >ar purchased, then even though it was a private sale, I > >ar believe you can still seek legal redress. Probably a > >ar costly business unfortunately. > >ar > >ar Find me on Twitter http://www.twitter.com/barkingbabs > >ar Barbara Wilson > >ar M: 07917710779 > >ar T: 02887784046 > >ar E: barkingbabs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > >ar IM: creativeeyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >ar Skype: creativeeyes > >ar > >ar ----- Original Message ----- > >ar From: "Andy" <andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >ar To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >ar Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 8:18 PM > >ar Subject: [access-uk] Genuin Windows Validation continued. > >ar > >ar > >>> Hi all. > >>> > >>> Thanks everyone for all your advice. > >>> > >>> I've not yet contacted the seller as there is another > >>> on-going issue which has not yet been resolved. The > >>> computer I purchased from him for £150, required an > >>> engineer to take it apart and reload all the drivers > >>> and OS. The computer arrived at my address in a > >>> cardboard box with no packaging. When I opened the box, > >>> the right side panel was off and I could not find any > >>> screws. The computer continuously crashed during > >>> boot-up. The engineer said that everything inside was > >>> filthy and most of the connections were slack. The > >>> hard drive was hanging off and the computer required > >>> to be cleaned, taken apart, tested and software > >>> reinstalled. He charged me £ 70. So I paid £225 for a > >>> home made xp home computer which was a few years old. I > >>> felt that although I had been conned, there was no way, > >>> that I'd get my money back from a re-cycle it list > >>> member. I was for this. reason prepared to bite the > >>> bullet and take it. However, this new thing about > >>> counterfeit operating system has just sickened me. I > >>> got Pauline to look at the CD and the package and she > >>> says that both are blank. Neither is a Microsoft > >>> product, so unfortunately, the chances are that I was > >>> also sold an illegal copy of XP home. Microsoft advise > >>> that this problem can be resolved for £99, which would > >>> bring the cost of my second hand xp home computer, > >>> which incidentally, is home built, up to £324. Am I > >>> going crazy or what? > >>> > >>> I have written to Graham, rather than the seller, to > >>> give him a chance to offer to pay for the OS. 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