[access-uk] Re: Fw: Response from Lloyds TSB re chip & pin at home

  • From: "Colin Fowler" <col.fowler@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 20 May 2007 12:04:40 +0100

Derek,

Of course they are at a disadvantage, it doesn't matter what the banks say 
or otherwise. The simple fact behind the banks introducing ACD for increased 
security is to reduce the opportunity of fraud as online banking is 
conducted currently.  It means that if customers that are able to opt out 
because they believe that to be a reasonable adjustment are physically less 
secure, then they are being treated less favourably.

Why would the banks be going to so much trouble and expense of increasing 
security by introducing ACD if they felt that the current process was 
secure?

It is the choice of the individual at the end of the day, but if there 
choice is to compromise on security, then the rest of the banks customers 
shouldn't be expected to pay for that. Likewise, disabled activists that 
actually understand the implementation of the social model and the 
dismantleing of barriers shouldn't have to experience the continued 
undermining by disabled people that are only too quick to be thankful for 
the most inappropriate gesture

Kind regards

Colin



Colin Fowler

Disability Consultant

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Derek Hornby" <derek.hornby_uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 11:30 AM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Fw: Response from Lloyds TSB re chip & pin at home


> Colin said
> "it would only constitute a reasonable adjustment  if the person receiving
> that adjustment was at no disadvantage  compared with >others."
>
> Agreed,  and that is why I said it is a reasonable adjustment,
> because the blind customers  will not be any worse off compared to
> other  customers.  Read again what the bank said about fraud!
>
> "Your argument in defence of the bank is complete nonsense. Ask
> yourself, why  are the banks introducing ACD?"
>
> Doesn't matter why,  qhat does matter is will the  blind customers  be
> any  worse off, and the answer seems to be no!
>
> Regards,
> Derek
>
> e-mail: derek.hornby_uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
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