We'll leave it for a day or so and if no new arguments come up it'll be time to close it as it's not progressing anymore.
There's been quite a few thought provoking arguments though from all sides. Dj paddy Ôà----- Original Message ----- From: <jim.taggart@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 8:39 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Fw: Response from Lloyds TSB re chip & pin at home
d.j. don't you think as moderator this thread has run it's course?----- Original Message ----- From: "Colin Fowler" <col.fowler@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2007 8:32 PMSubject: [access-uk] Re: Fw: Response from Lloyds TSB re chip & pin at homeDerek, Your use of "able bodied" is insulting, I'm sure that many of us will take offence from that reference----- Original Message ----- From: "Derek Hornby" <derek.hornby_uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 7:09 PMSubject: [access-uk] Re: Fw: Response from Lloyds TSB re chip & pin at homeHi Barry I thought I had answered your question but I am sorry if I didn't. I do believe that what the bank is offering is acceptable, because the blind customer is not going to be at any greater risk, or disadvantage, compared to the able-bodied sighted customers. If this case was in court for a DDA judgment, how would you show that the blind customer is at a disadvantage? All you can show is that access to the service is being offered ina different way, but that's not illegal! The bank will simply argue that as they are taking on the extra risk, (as they do for chip and signature customers) there is no extra risk for the blind customers. The bank will point out that they have agreed to cover for fraud. So at end of the day, the blind customer is no worse off comapred to any other customer. Regards, Derek e-mail: derek.hornby_uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.6/815 - Release Date: 5/22/2007 3:49 PM ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq
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