[access-uk] Re: Fw: Response from Lloyds TSB re chip & pin at home
- From: "Ankers, Dave \(UK\)" <Dave.Ankers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 11:50:44 +0100
Barry,
I fully agree with you about the software option, far simpler. All that
happens with the USB fob is when the code is required, enter the fob,
the code is grabbed and that's it I believe.
Dave
Does the USB version talk directly to the PC then? Wouldn't it be
better if they all used this process? In fact, why not send out a small
programme on a disc that generates a code every sixty seconds, just like
the fob.
Barry
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ankers, Dave (UK)" <Dave.Ankers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 10:29 AM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Fw: Response from Lloyds TSB re chip & pin at
home
Barry,
The security fob at the centre of this debate is available in USB format
and so all that is required is for the banks to supply this format to
its blind customers (damn used the B word again LOL). No eye sight
required, just some foresight from the banks.
=20
Dave
Yes, I'd say we are being offered an inferior level of security. The
current level is inferior to the proposed level and we have to miss out
on it. It is like living in an apartment block where every flat has
their security system up-graded because the neighbourhood has become
dangerous, but they don't install the new system in the blind persons
flat because they can't use the keypad. Yes, there is insurance, but
the blind person is still more vulnerable to attack.
Barry
----- Original Message -----=20
From: "Colin Fowler" <col.fowler@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2007 10:09 AM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Fw: Response from Lloyds TSB re chip & pin at
home
Barry,
Isn't this what the banks believe that ACD will be for the time being?
or
until the fraudsters catch up with the technology at least? There are
some
on this list that will continue to cowtail to establishment and 'do what
they're told' because there independent judgement of living in a
barrier
free society is clouded.
Kind regards
Colin
Colin Fowler
Disability Consultant
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----- Original Message -----=20
From: "Barry Hill" <bbinc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 9:45 AM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Fw: Response from Lloyds TSB re chip & pin at
home
> So, if the banks introduced an absolutely fool proof method of banking
> that
> was impervious to any fraud, but it was not accessible for the blind,
> would
> it be equal treatment if the bank said that we could carry on as we
are
> now?
>
> Barry
>
> ----- Original Message -----=20
> From: "Derek Hornby" <derek.hornby_uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 9:22 AM
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Fw: Response from Lloyds TSB re chip & pin at
> home
>
>
> Colin said
> "Obviously the principal of being treated at a disadvantage in
> respect to the security implications is beyond the simple
comprehension of
> some on this list!"
>
> No, some of us just know the meaning of the word "disadvantage"
>
> Those that cannot use the key pads at home are not being told they
cannot
> access the same banking services at those that can use the key pads.
> They are simply being allowed to carry on accessing the services
> same way as now. There is no lower standard of service, there is no
> disadvantage to the customer because the bank has guaranteed to
cover
> for fraud.
>
> If this case was in court for a DDA judgment the bank would win,
> because the bank can show that the blind customers are *not*
> at a greater risk, compared to others.
> But not one blind person can show different.
> All that some can show is that access to the service is being
offered
> in a different way, but that's not illegal under DDA.
>
>
> Regards,
> Derek
>
> e-mail: derek.hornby_uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
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