[access-uk] Re: Fw: Response from Lloyds TSB re chip & pin at home
- From: "Colin Fowler" <col.fowler@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 09:42:25 +0100
pissing in the wind springs to mind Dave
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ankers, Dave (UK)" <Dave.Ankers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 9:38 AM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Fw: Response from Lloyds TSB re chip & pin at home
>
> Oh go on enlighten him, please
> =20
> Dave
>
> and are prepared to compromise on the disabled persons movements
> interpretation of the social model of disability too! Furthermore your
> claim that a civil court would accept the banks alternative option as a
> reasonable adjustment is unfounded, you have no evidence of that
> whatsoever. It is extremely unlikely that any UK bank would even allow
> such a challenge to come to court.
>
> You have your understanding of what is reasonable, I have mine, and the
> interpretation of which would stand in a court would be down to the
> ajudication of a district judge. Let's agree to disagree Derek, you
> frankly don't understand the UN convention on Human Rights for Disabled
> people, and as much as I'd like to enlighten you, I fear this isn't the
> place and I've honestly no inclination to do so!
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Derek Hornby" <derek.hornby_uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 9:22 AM
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Fw: Response from Lloyds TSB re chip & pin at
> home
>
>
>> Colin said
>> "Obviously the principal of being treated at a disadvantage in
>> respect to the security implications is beyond the simple
> comprehension of
>> some on this list!"
>>
>> No, some of us just know the meaning of the word "disadvantage"
>>
>> Those that cannot use the key pads at home are not being told they
> cannot
>> access the same banking services at those that can use the key pads.
>> They are simply being allowed to carry on accessing the services
>> same way as now. There is no lower standard of service, there is no
>> disadvantage to the customer because the bank has guaranteed to
> cover
>> for fraud.
>>
>> If this case was in court for a DDA judgment the bank would win,
>> because the bank can show that the blind customers are *not*
>> at a greater risk, compared to others.
>> But not one blind person can show different.
>> All that some can show is that access to the service is being
> offered
>> in a different way, but that's not illegal under DDA.
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Derek
>>
>> e-mail: derek.hornby_uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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>>=20
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