David, I only forwarded that message from another list, I have also done the upgrade and have written to let RNIB know this. In a separate message they pointed out that, since the players are on loan, anything that went wrong as a result of any 'unauthorised modifications to it' would be our responsibility, that's fair enough . But I assume that the core of the upgrade that they are about to issue is the Visuaide/Humanwware firmware that we have just installed, so why it should go wrong when we install it from a CD-ROM image provided by the manufacturer and not go wrong when we install it from a CD sent to us by RNIB I'm not sure. In the forwarded message there is a reference to the upgrade being planned for this summer, until I received the message I had had no information that RNIB was planning to distribute any upgrades in the immediate future, so I'm not sure what's going on there. I have asked them to let me know what the situation is for those of us who have done the upgrade. I agree in principle there shouldn't be any problem with installing the RNIB firmware even if the version number is the same, but maybe we have missed something. I certainly hope I can get their firmware installed, I don't want to be getting grief for doing this upgrade for the rest of my TB membership. I'll let you know when I hear anything. Alternatively, you could raise these issues on the list where the message I forwarded first appeared, subscribe by sending a blank message to rnibtalkingbooksarena-subscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Best wishes James ----- Original Message ----- From: David Dick To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 9:12 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Fw: [RNIBTalkingBooksArena] Urgent information - digital player software upgrades Hello, Having done the necessary upgrade to my victor reader to version 307 I think it is, I must admit I do like the extra facilities it provides. The sleep facility and the one minute skip are very useful and enhance the operation. I fail to understand however what harm it would do if any particular player was upgraded twice, say once by the original user and a second time by yourselves when it was being reissued but I only ask out of general interest. Perhaps you could explain the actual harm it would do if it had a second inadvertant upgrade by mistake. Many thanks Kind Regards David Dick ----- Original Message ----- From: James O'Dell To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 8:42 PM Subject: [access-uk] Fw: [RNIBTalkingBooksArena] Urgent information - digital player software upgrades ----- Original Message ----- From: salandiak To: RNIBTalkingBooksArena@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 3:31 PM Subject: [RNIBTalkingBooksArena] Urgent information - digital player software upgrades Folks, this is a follow-up to the info sent by Pete Osborne recently re: software upgrades. This is an urgent plea to anyone who has either downloaded software upgrades for digital players from the internet or is considering doing so. Please on no account do this. You will already be aware that we have an upgrade due to take place this summer, so we will be in severe difficulties if an upgrade takes place from another source before we can do this for all machines. It will be an absolute nightmare for us once we get players back, as we won't know which player has had an upgrade and which one needs one, as the record will not be updated to reflect this change. If you have already upgraded your machine, then please let me know, so we can amend the machine's record. If you haven't, please don't go there. Thanks in advance Regards Trudy ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Yahoo! Groups Links a.. To visit your group on the web, go to: http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/RNIBTalkingBooksArena/ b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: RNIBTalkingBooksArena-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.0/27 - Release Date: 23/06/2005