[access-uk] Re: Fw: Disabled People and Chip and Pin

  • From: "Mandy Palmer" <amanda.palmer@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 15:03:04 +0100

Hi Steve, I know I'm very late on this, so behind in mail but I couldn't
agree with you more!

Mandy

-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf
Of Steve Nutt
Sent: 25 March 2006 12:00
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Fw: Disabled People and Chip and Pin


Hi.

While I am glad of the information here, I do wish there wasn't such a
negative light shed on chip and pin.  It is a great system, and a better
alternative than the signature in my view, which is easy to forge.  I do
appreciate that some people can't use it, but there seems to be this thing
that the blind can't use it also.  For goodness' sake, it is just like
dialing a telephone, and so long as you remember the PIN, you're OK for the
most part.

An even better system I saw recently, was in the USA.  They want a piece of
ID before you can use your credit card, such as a driving licence, or
passport.  I thought this too was a good system.

All the best
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-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
David Quarmby
Sent: 25 March 2006 08:09
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Fw: Disabled People and Chip and Pin

For information; please circulate

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Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 3:24 PM
Subject: Disabled People and Chip and Pin


The TUC has been supporting the Disability Rights Commission in its work to
prevent discrimination against disabled people - especially learning
disabled people - through the adoption of chip and pin technology. Having
failed to make real progress in discussion with the banks etc, the DRC is
now considering legal action if suitable cases can be identified.

They have asked the TUC for help in identifying individuals who may have
suffered discrimination through the failure of suppliers to accept
alternatives to Chip and Pin.
They ask anyone with a possible case to first contact the DRC Helpline,
08457 622633 (textphone 08457 622644, fax 08457 778878) - helpline advisers
will discuss the case with the caller and if appropriate pass it on to the
legal team.
Please can you circulate this information through any networks and encourage
anyone - especially a learning disabled member - with a possible case, to
contact the DRC helpline.
Thanks,
Peter Purton
Policy Officer, Disability, Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual Transgender Rights
Equality & Employment Rights Department, TUC tel. 020 7467 1271 email
ppurton@xxxxxxxxxx

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