I have to agree with Andrew here, I have never had any serious problems with
Chip and Pin. In fat I would go further and say that I find Chip and Pin a
good deal easier than waiting around to sigh at every Check Out counter. You
can dial in a Chip and Pin number in next to no time.
Tony
----- Original Message -----
From: "Andrew Ireland" <andrew@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 3:24 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Fw: Disabled People and Chip and Pin
Hi All,
Personally I find chip and pin a wonderful system, and I haven't had any problems. If you can use a telephone, you can use chip and pin.
Andrew
On 25 March 2006 10:46:Joe Hunter wrote:
fortunately I can use both systems but my wife has difficulties with the pad due to arthritus but they have allowed us to use either system write or pin in. . joe. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 11:59 AM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Fw: Disabled People and Chip and Pin
Hi.
While I am glad of the information here, I do wish there wasn't such a negative light shed on chip and pin. It is a great system, and a better alternative than the signature in my view, which is easy to forge. I do appreciate that some people can't use it, but there seems to be this thing that the blind can't use it also. For goodness' sake, it is just like dialing a telephone, and so long as you remember the PIN, you're OK for the most part.
An even better system I saw recently, was in the USA. They want a piece of ID before you can use your credit card, such as a driving licence, or passport. I thought this too was a good system.
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-----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David Quarmby Sent: 25 March 2006 08:09 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Fw: Disabled People and Chip and Pin
For information; please circulate
----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Purton" <PPurton@xxxxxxxxxx> To: "Bruce Birchall" <BruceBirchall@xxxxxxxxxxx>; "David Quarmby (E-mail)" <quarmby@xxxxxxxxxxxx>; "Gail Cartmail" <gail.cartmail@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "Gareth Davies (E-mail)" <gareth.davies59@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "John Wagstaff" <JOHN.WAGSTAFF106@xxxxxxxxxxx>; "Les Woodward" <les.woodward@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "Mandy Hudson" <mandy8@xxxxxxxxxxx>; "Mark Fysh (E-mail)" <markfysh@xxxxxxx>; "Mark Fysh2" <mark.fysh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "Mike Johnson (E-mail)" <michael.johnson@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "Patrick Williams" <patrickwilliams45@xxxxxxxxxxx>; "Patrick Williams" <patrict_m@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "Patrick Williams" <patrick.williams@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "Phil Madelin (E-mail)" <phil@xxxxxxxxxx>; "Richard Cook" <findcook@xxxxxxxxxxx>; "Richard Rieser (E-mail)" <r.rieser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "Sasha Callaghan (E-mail)" <rosalba6@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "Tony Snedden (E-mail)" <tony@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "Adolphus Ojinnaka (E-mail)" <a.ojinnaka@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "Andrea Jones (E-mail)" <andrea.jones@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "Aveen McHugh (E-mail)" <aveen@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "Bas Morris (E-mail)" <basmorris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "Bukky Akinwale (E-mail)" <b.akinwale@xxxxxxxxxxxx>; "Carola Towle (E-mail)"
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The TUC has been supporting the Disability Rights Commission in its work to prevent discrimination against disabled people - especially learning disabled people - through the adoption of chip and pin technology. Having failed to make real progress in discussion with the banks etc, the DRC is now considering legal action if suitable cases can be identified.
They have asked the TUC for help in identifying individuals who may have suffered discrimination through the failure of suppliers to accept alternatives to Chip and Pin. They ask anyone with a possible case to first contact the DRC Helpline, 08457 622633 (textphone 08457 622644, fax 08457 778878) - helpline advisers will discuss the case with the caller and if appropriate pass it on to the legal team. Please can you circulate this information through any networks and encourage anyone - especially a learning disabled member - with a possible case, to contact the DRC helpline. Thanks, Peter Purton Policy Officer, Disability, Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual Transgender Rights Equality & Employment Rights Department, TUC tel. 020 7467 1271 email ppurton@xxxxxxxxxx
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