[access-uk] Re: Four apps for iPod Touch/iPhone to recommend
- From: "Jackie Cairns" <jackie.cairnsplace@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 17:20:32 -0000
Well, I feel a bit like a kid in a candy shop browsing all these different
apps. Many of course wouldn't interest me, but there are some that I
wouldn't mind trying out, and may end up risking. I guess it depends on
what you are interested in, but the whole point of this is that there is so
much out there you can tap into thanks to VoiceOver and not just a regular
screenreader that tends to dictate to you rather than you being able to have
some choice. For anyone whoever carries doubts about not being able to use
one of these devices if you have very little or no sight, then do take the
opportunity to visit a store and have a play, you really will find it easier
than you might imagine, I certainly didn't think I'd get this far.
I suppose, for me, it's the closest thing to being able to go into a library
or book shop and browsing what categories are on offer. True some don't and
might never work, but it's so much fun being able to just find out exactly
what is out there and then making an informed choice.
Love it.
Kind Regards,
Jackie Cairns
J&M Work-Ability
jandm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
www.work-ability.co.uk
-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Ibrahim Gucukoglu
Sent: 23 January 2011 17:03
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Four apps for iPod Touch/iPhone to recommend
Hi Jackie.
Exactly, if the app is only a couple of quid or less even, its just not
worth the bother of trying to get a refund out of apple, though if you can,
its always a bonus. I bought Tom-tom UK and Ireland because listening to a
podcast which compared GPS programs it sounded quite good, but I decided I
didn't like it so approached Apple for a refund. Even though there was no
real reasoning behind my request other than I already had GPS in the form of
Navigon, they gave me my refund never the less as a gesture of goodwill.
All the best, Ibrahim.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jackie Cairns" <jackie.cairnsplace@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2011 3:46 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Four apps for iPod Touch/iPhone to recommend
> Hi Ibrahim
>
> I downloaded an app for 59p that didn't work the other day, and just put
> it
> down to hard luck. It was a Teletext type app which I hoped would allow
> me
> to page up at least Ceefax, but it didn't, so that was that. But Quick
> News
> UK is a good one though and does work with VoiceOver for the same price.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Jackie Cairns
> J&M Work-Ability
>
> jandm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> www.work-ability.co.uk
> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
> Of
> Ibrahim Gucukoglu
> Sent: 23 January 2011 12:52
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Four apps for iPod Touch/iPhone to recommend
>
> Hi Jim.
>
> Well, applevis is probably the only website I really use if I'm looking
> for
> something specific and want to find out whether someone else has tested an
> app before, but generally speaking I'll just go and download apps and try
> them on the off chance that they'll be accessible or at least usable. The
> problem comes when you download paid for apps which aren't accessible, and
> all you can do really is grit your teeth and learn a lesson or two as
> Apple
> are quite reluctant to give refunds unless there is a very good reasoning
> behind your request. This is from personal experience and in no way
> reflects on the staff working at the online stores service desk, but it
> all
> depends on who you get and how sympathetic they are to you. I've come
> across some really snotty individuals who will either question you on the
> specific reason you want a refund and insist on testing the app for
> themselves, either that or turn down a refund request outright. In
> contrast
> though, there are some really good staff whom are a pleasure to deal with
> and who are only too happy to help.
>
> All the best and good luck on your app search.
>
> Take care, Ibrahim.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "jim" <j_doherty2@xxxxxxx>
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2011 10:22 AM
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Four apps for iPod Touch/iPhone to recommend
>
>
>> Hi Ibrahim,
>>
>> It would be very useful to know what apps are accessible and which are
>> not. I wonder if someone could put up a list of accessible tried and
>> tested ones for blind and visually impaired people, other than applevis.
>>
>> Jim
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Ibrahim Gucukoglu" <ibrahim_gucukoglu@xxxxxxxx>
>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2011 12:55 AM
>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Four apps for iPod Touch/iPhone to recommend
>>
>>
>>> Hi Jim.
>>>
>>> I'm an IPhone user, if there's any app you want me to test out and its
>>> free I'll be happy to give it a go, time permitting of course. I use
>>> lots of apps for lots of different things, so I've a good list of apps I
>>> use and can recommend.
>>>
>>> All the best, Ibrahim.
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "jim" <j_doherty2@xxxxxxx>
>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2011 8:12 PM
>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Four apps for iPod Touch/iPhone to recommend
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi Jackie,
>>>>
>>>> I hope you keep these tried and tested out apps coming to the list, I
>>>> got tune radio after reading your email and its fantastic. Thanks and
>>>> keep testing them out for us ipod touch users its appreciated.
>>>>
>>>> Jim
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Jackie Cairns" <jackie.cairnsplace@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2011 12:39 PM
>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Four apps for iPod Touch/iPhone to recommend
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi David
>>>>>
>>>>> I went into the App Store on my iPod Touch, then went to categories.
>>>>> I
>
>>>>> got
>>>>> the English Dictionary and Thesaurus, World Fact Book 2011, and Birds
>>>>> of
>>>>> Britain under the reference section. I bought Quick News UK under the
>>>>> news
>>>>> section, and I think I bought Tune In under the music category.
>>>>>
>>>>> I was having a look at an app I could possibly try to get that would
>>>>> be
>
>>>>> like
>>>>> Teletext, and came across one for 59p which gives Ceefax and some
>>>>> foreign
>>>>> services. But they aren't compatible with VoiceOver, so I've had to
>>>>> call
>>>>> that one a day I reckon. I have also downloaded a free TV Guide which
>>>>> seems
>>>>> to be reasonably accessible, but I'm still fathoming out how it works
>>>>> properly.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Kind Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Jackie Cairns
>>>>> J&M Work-Ability
>>>>>
>>>>> jandm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> www.work-ability.co.uk
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>>>>> Behalf Of
>>>>> David
>>>>> Sent: 22 January 2011 09:55
>>>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Four apps for iPod Touch/iPhone to recommend
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Jackie,
>>>>>
>>>>> Can you tell me where you got you apps from. I have tried itunes and
>>>>> the
>>>>> apple shop, but I must be doing the wrong thing as I come up with
>>>>> nothing.
>>>>>
>>>>> David Weston.
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>>>>> Behalf Of
>>>>> Jackie Cairns
>>>>> Sent: 21 January 2011 08:45
>>>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Four apps for iPod Touch/iPhone to recommend
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, I don't think the prices differ greatly. Living in a village,
>>>>> going
>>>>> online is best for us, so it's as well to be the Apple store as
>>>>> anywhere
>>>>> else, and their delivery service is very quick. I believe John Lewis
>>>>> sell
>>>>> the Apple range, and everything with them carries a two-year
>>>>> guarantee,
>
>>>>> so
>>>>> maybe that's worth considering. They will also give you hands-on like
>>>>> the
>>>>> Apple store in all probability. I note with Argos that anything with
>>>>> storage capacity doesn't carry a 30-day money back guarantee, so if
>>>>> you
>
>>>>> buy
>>>>> and don't like, you would need a hard and fast reason for returning it
>>>>> to
>>>>> them.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Kind Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Jackie Cairns
>>>>> J&M Work-Ability
>>>>>
>>>>> jandm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> www.work-ability.co.uk
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>>>>> Behalf Of
>>>>> David
>>>>> Sent: 21 January 2011 08:36
>>>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Four apps for iPod Touch/iPhone to recommend
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Carol,
>>>>>
>>>>> The price is very much the same where ever you buy the ipod. Thou
>>>>> before
>>>>> Christmas Argos was selling the ipod touch 32 gb for £20 less that the
>>>>> Apple
>>>>> store.
>>>>>
>>>>> David Weston.
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>>>>> Behalf Of
>>>>> Carol Pearson
>>>>> Sent: 20 January 2011 17:06
>>>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Four apps for iPod Touch/iPhone to recommend
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> OK, I do understand that Brian but don't know exactly where they're
>>>>> sold and
>>>>> was surprised to learn about Argos.
>>>>>
>>>>> Is there much difference in price as you look around and any way of
>>>>> finding
>>>>> the prices from these different stores, please?
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Carol P
>>>>> ---- Original Message ----
>>>>> From: "the williams family" <therefuge@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 7:32 AM
>>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Four apps for iPod Touch/iPhone to recommend
>>>>>
>>>>>> hi carol
>>>>>> remember apple products are also sold by other retailers.
>>>>>> We got our ipod touches from argos.
>>>>>> brian
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>>>> From: "Carol Pearson" <carol.pearson29@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 8:30 PM
>>>>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Four apps for iPod Touch/iPhone to recommend
>>>>>>> Jackie,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm getting more and more hooked. Just can't quite decide whether
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> go for phone or the Ipod Touch. Strangely enough, we are also
>>>>>>> looking
>>>>>
>>>>>>> at Bose systems right now and I'm thinking of Bose speakers for my
>>>>>>> computer system which is away from the main stereo.
>>>>>>> Anyway, I now fully understand the difference between these two so
>>>>>>> shall be looking, though am disappointed as we don't have an Apple
>>>>>>> store very near at all.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Carol P
>>>>>>> ---- Original Message ----
>>>>>>> From: "Jackie Cairns" <jackie.cairnsplace@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 8:31 AM
>>>>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Four apps for iPod Touch/iPhone to
>>>>>>> recommend
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Carol
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> With the iPod Touch, as long as you put your broadband security key
>>>>>>>> in, you will be able to treat it like a PC online, where you can
>>>>>>>> download material and browse the Internet. What you can't
>>>>>>>> obviously
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> do is make calls etc, because the phone part is not included. But,
>>>>>>>> as I've said several times, the phone isn't the bit I want as I am
>>>>>>>> happy with the handsets and Talks I use. I just love the iPod
>>>>>>>> Touch
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> for the applications it can work with. At the moment, for example,
>>>>>>>> I have put my device through a set of Bose speakers, and am
>>>>>>>> listening to Five Live Sports Extra so I can hear the tennis.
>>>>>>>> Quality is very
>>>>> good
>>>>>>>> and no drop-out or stuttering.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Kind Regards,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jackie Cairns
>>>>>>>> J&M Work-Ability
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> jandm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>> www.work-ability.co.uk
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>>>>>>>> Behalf Of Carol Pearson
>>>>>>>> Sent: 18 January 2011 15:47
>>>>>>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Four apps for iPod Touch/iPhone to
>>>>>>>> recommend
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jackie,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I never realised you could do so much with the Ipod Touch. I
>>>>>>>> hadn't
>>>>>>>> thought about it going online, though I should, knowing that Apples
>>>>>>>> stuff works with ITunes, and I certainly hadn't thought about it
>>>>>>>> being able to run these other apps.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Very interesting, for sure!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So, does anyone know if all apps work across the board on their
>>>>>>>> equipment? Just interested in how things work.
>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Carol P
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ---- Original Message ----
>>>>>>>> From: "Jackie Cairns"
>>>>>>>> <jackie.cairnsplace@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 10:21 AM
>>>>>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Four apps for iPod Touch/iPhone to recommend
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> My Apple keyboard arrived yesterday, and pairing it with my iPod
>>>>>>>>> Touch was extremely straightforward. So I decided to visit the
>>>>>>>>> App
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Store and, for 59p each, I bought four applications that work with
>>>>>>>>> VoiceOver. They are the World Fact Book 2011, a dictionary and
>>>>>>>>> thesaurus, Tune In Radio and, probably my favourite, Birds of
>>>>>>>>> Britain. The latter is an amazing little program if you love bird
>>>>>>>>> sound and details. Not only can you play the song, but you can
>>>>>>>>> listen to VoiceOver provide a description of their size, colour,
>>>>>>>>> family, time of year etc. There is also a favourites button to
>>>>>>>>> use
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> where you can add a library of your favourite birds to it.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Tune In Radio is great. Similarly, there is a bookmark facility
>>>>>>>>> where you can make a list of the stations you wish to add.
>>>>>>>>> Because
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I love tennis, and the Australian Open is on at the moment, I have
>>>>>>>>> great difficulty getting it on DAB as we have such a diabolical
>>>>>>>>> signal in these parts. So when I tuned in using the Sonata at
>>>>>>>>> 8.00
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> this morning, a message said that restricted rights prevented
>>>>>>>>> coverage. I find this often happens at weekends when football
>>>>>>>>> matches are in progress too.
>>>>>>>>> So I tuned my iPod to Sports Extra and, low and behold, got the
>>>>>>>>> tennis on live.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> All the above apps work with VoiceOver. I don't use my keyboard
>>>>>>>>> for everything, mainly when I get into tricky areas that need a
>>>>>>>>> bit
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> of typing. Mostly, I use my fingers and have got used to doing so
>>>>>>>>> now.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Just thought I'd pass on the info.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Kind Regards,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Jackie Cairns
>>>>>>>>> J&M Work-Ability
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> jandm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>> www.work-ability.co.uk
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