I'm not a moderator or list owner, and I happen to find all this interesting. Pity it's in the wrong place. For anyone who's got the time there is the RNIB ARena discussion list which is just for this sort of thing. Sorry, I'm in a hurry, so cannot lay my hands on the sub details right now, though Tom Laurimer's Whitestick site probably has them. Cheers, From Ray I can be contacted off-list at: mailto:ray-48@xxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- Brendan Magill David, If you haven't already read it, "The Worst Journey in the World" by Apsley Cherry-Garrard is another must read. Apart from giving a different insight into Scott's failure, it tells an amazing tale of winter travel in Antarctica - to collect eggs from Emperor Penguins. I think I saw it too on audible.co.uk. Sorry about this off topic stuff, folks, but this is the glory of email lists: you find people with shared interests. Cheers, Brendan. -- BRENDAN MAGILL Business, Employment & Disability Consultancy ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq