Cool thanks for that. I will most likely try some especially if they would
not interfere with the glasses!
On 17 January 2021 23:03:53 "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi,
I haven’t tried the Aeropex, but they are supposed to be good. The Trekz Air are good, but not loud enough for environments such as the gym.
All the best
Steve
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Interesting, do you have any specific recommendations as to which aftershock are good?
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Not at all. I wear Aftershokz with my Orcam glasses with no problem.
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Wouldn’t it be difficult to wear aftershocks and the glasses at the same time as aftershocks would sort of have to be behind the ear? I admit I never tried them so I may be wrong here, but wouldn’t the aftershocks clash with the back of the glasses?
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Again, Aftershokz are your friend.
All the best
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That’s exactly what I said in my message, it seems, at least at the moment, unless I’m missing something, impossible to use phone navigation and glasses at the same time, well unless holding the phone in your hand and listening to it, but that’s kinda not very practical. Although they do not have AIRA or be my eyes, you can call a contact and talk to them, though I find the quality of sound while talking to someone not very good. You can hear yourself and sometimes it’s quite hard to hear the other person. When I contacted envision to tell them about this they suggest that the person you’re calling should wear headphones and though that eliminates the feedback, the problem of the sound of the other person being very low volume persists. So when in a very noisy environment it is near impossible to have a conversation with someone through the glasses. Considering the cost, I really hope that they will improve this and also that we could find a way of using phone and glasses at the same time. As I said, surely this could be done on the software end by enabling us to have the phone audio to be piped through the envision glasses, sort of like we can do through Bose smart glasses…
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hi there i just hope they keep up with it though and like steve says like the cyber eyes i did not last long. the concept is very interesting though and again because it is hands free so to speak when walking it must make things a lot easier to use. it would be good if they could bring be my eyes and aira on to them though. again any help for us reading and seing what is around you is terific. again if i did get them i just wonder how i would use blind square or lazzorillo and also be able to use the glasses. again i just hope that they will keep updating it and say in three years time it just stops.
i think the best point about them is this being able to contact someone who can see to guide you or help you in any situation.
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That's why I personally believe that envision glasses are better. They don't have to depend on the phone to charge. Also, although you initially have to pair them with the phone you certainly don't have to have the app on to use the glasses. I guess I was lucky that I got them for slightly cheaper price during the pre-order period. Yes, I know there are expensive and I realise they're not for everyone, but OI personally don't regret my purchase. The only thing I wish it would be possible with envision ones is that there was an option to connect to your phone and have the sound of the phone piped through the glasses. That way it would be possible to use navigation and glasses at the same time. I can't really see what option is there to do that right now as obviously if wearing earbuds or headphones, not only that it'd be impossible to hear outside environment, but also the glasses. Yes, there are bone conducting headphones, but I can imagine that it w ould be difficult to ware those and glasses at the same time.
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No John, Amro said it was manufactured especially by the company. Besides, Google Glass 2 is about the same size as a regular pair of glasses, this appears to my assistant to be more bulky, more like a headset.
Google Glass also has its own battery and doesn't rely on the phone.
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hi there how very interesting certainly the price is much better.
personally i did hear the zoom event yesterday about the envision glasses which i can see for some people will have great value.
i am going to wait a while though to see what apple glasses come out with but i must say these glasses you are on about do seem to have very good value i wonder whether it is google glasses like the envision ones or not.
i suppose it would work on my 3 a android phone though.
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From: Amro Bilal
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Date: Thursday, January 14, 2021 03:06 PM
Subject: [access-uk] FYI, Amal Glasses information - a wearable assistive tech
Now then. I spoke to the Amal Glasses people and heres what Ive got.
Will start with the price! Its 1100 US Dollars delivered using DHL.
They mention on the invoice that these glasses are for the blind, so I
guess we dont have to pay taxes on them when they arrive. The glasses
recognise English and Arabic languages. The menus along with all other
functions can be set to English so an English-speaking person can fully
use it, and in this case they only hear the Arabic if they choose to OCR
Arabic text. The glasses recognise most currencies. You have to choose
three currencies in settings to be active, and you can change those in
settings at any time. The glasses come with 12 months manufacture
warranty, and they can provide remote support for software and user help < BR />issues. The glasses have 13 functions some of which are OCR, Scenery
recognition, reading text on screens and signs& please see their website
for complete list of functions. Im awaiting confirmation for both the
resolution of the camera, and what voices exactly the glasses use,
though I believe they are Vocaliser voices from what I heard on the vid eo.
Development of the glasses took 3-4 years, and this is the first edition
which they released last December. They use proprietary hardware
manufactured in the UAE. They dont have instructions or leaflets in
English as yet as they have just started selling the product, the
representative said. They only have present in Dubai (UAE) and Riyadh
(Saudi) for the time being, so trying the glasses first-hand will be an
issue for UK customers at this time, unless they happen to be traveling
to one of these cities or have someone there who can try them on their
behalf.
The glasses unfortunately work with Android phones only, but this may
change in the future to include iPhones. The phone is the brain of the
glasses, and they are powered by its battery. The glasses connect to the
phone by a thin cable, where the glasses essentially function as a
console. For example, to OCR a text, you would first select the OCR
function from the menu using the buttons found on the right arm of the
frame, and then you would press the button to take a picture to initiate
the OCR process, which takes say 5 seconds to get the results, the man
said. Few of the functions require internet connection I understand. All
the buttons are located on the right arm of the frame. For the glasses
to function, the application on the phone has to be in focus (maximised).
I know that our Steve said yesterday that the glasses appear to be
bulky, but I asked my wife to have a look, and sh e said that they didnt
look that bulky, and they looked alright and quite similar to Google
glasses. Anyway, this is subjective so best to check the videos.
This is what I gathered from speaking to one of the sales team for now,
so if anyone is thinking of getting one of these they are best to
confirm these details with the manufacturers.
HTH,
Amro
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