John, I totally agree with you. I see no point in reading earlier posts before seeing the new one; it wastes more time and is a lot of inconvenience, particularly for those whose screen readers are set to speak most punctuation. Thanks for your thoughts John, and I'll review Deric's post when I come to it. On Sat, 26 May 2007 14:28:25 +0100, "John Farley" <john_farley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> said: > Hello Derek, > > I am sorry to see that you are at it again. > > I send what I believe is a constructive note to the list and you then > respond in your own manner. > > Why am I "lazy" because you disagree with my view? > > At work top posting is the normal convention that I have come across in > many > companies. People are expected to know the topic being discussed or to > take > the time to read the bottom first. > > You have make comparisons with conversation and book reading. In fact > despite the fact that all 3 use words there is little direct connection > between them. > > A conversation is a direct two way interchange in real time. An e-mail > is, > by its very nature, not in real time and so can be handled in a different > manner if required. > > Reading a book from start to finish is fine. Do you therefore imply that > on > each e-mail you want to read the many earlier notes each time before you > get > to the new bits? That, again, is not a practical suggestion. > > Now, as far as eating food with one's fingers, how did you manage to jump > to > that? Or were you trying to make some sort of outlandish connection. > In fact that too wood not make much sense as you would finish up with > fairly > messy hands and would then need to take out more time and trouble > cleaning > yourself up. It would not be easier at all. > > Please believe me Derek, that there are others on this list who also have > valid contributions to make. > > > > > Regards, John > > Contact on : (Home) > john_farley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > or : (work) > john.farley@xxxxxxxx > -----Original Message----- > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf > Of > Derek Hornby > Sent: 26 May 2007 13:10 > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Top Posting to this list > > Hi John > > >It is much easier to follow with top posting; if the person thinks it is > >necessary to add context from an earlier note , then addict, with lines > >saying "quote start" and "quote en". > > The only problem with quoting, is when there is far too much quoted. > > Top-posting makes posts incomprehensible. > Why? > Because In normal conversations, one does not answer to something that > has > not yet been said. So it is unclear to reply to the top, whilst the > original > message is at the bottom. also consider a book is normally read from top > to bottom. Top-posting forces one to stray from this convention: Reading > some at the top, skipping to the bottom to read the question, and going > back > to the top to continue. > > > I think the real reason why some people like top posting they are > too lazy to cut and snip irrelevant text. > Do most blind people eat there dinner with their fingers, on the grounds > it's easier than using a knive and fork? > > So just because a task is easer, doens t make it better. > Regards, > Derek > > e-mail: derek.hornby_uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] > ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > ** and in the Subject line type > ** unsubscribe > ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the > ** immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] > ** or send a message, to > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq > > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] > ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > ** and in the Subject line type > ** unsubscribe > ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the > ** immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] > ** or send a message, to > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq > Christopher Hallsworth E-mail: chrishallsworth@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Skype name chrishallsworth7266 ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq