HI George: I would have usually placed my comments in the jaws UK list, but as = comments were in the access UK list, I just carried them on. My spacific = problems with jaws eight were to do with instillation, and the package not = working at all after install. I have detailed my problems to sight and sound and = hope through them, freedom scientific will get their package working again. = It's not the first time I've had problems with jaws releases, and feeback = from me has often fixed the problems, though I never knew what the causes of the problems were. Why, for example, can I install updates to jaws = sevenpoint one point 417 but not earlier versions of seven point one? The same, I suspect is for eight, this version causes problems for me, but an = updated one might not. The questions I ask were just for illistration purposes, = and weren't meant to be answered, for noone could tell me why one version of 7.1.0 worked and another didn't. from jaws=20 -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf = Of George Bell Sent: 21 November 2006 12:52 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: FW: Re: Jaws V 8.0 Far from it, Martin, although it's sometimes best placed in the JAWS-UK list. That said, I do know that Tristram and others from Sight & Sound are = looking very closely at the problems which have been reported. It's extremely useful to have as much detail as possible, such as a Specific URL where a web site appears to fall over. Likewise, it is also helpful to know if the exact same site works properly with an earlier version. George. -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of martin wilsher Sent: 21 November 2006 12:26 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] FW: Re: Jaws V 8.0 -----Original Message----- From: martin wilsher [mailto:m.wilsher@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]=3D3D20 Sent: 21 November 2006 12:21 To: 'access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' Subject: RE: [access-uk] Re: Jaws V 8.0 Hi all. I have a feeling that on this list, critisim of jaws is almost taboo. =3D3D Well, I'm sorry, but freedom can make a hash of an upgrade like anyone else, = =3D3D be they serving a small market or the mainstream. It seems freedom have = =3D3D for the most part hashed up v 8 of jaws. If we don't complain, they = won't =3D3D fix the problems. I for one can't get v8 to work at all, and I've = tried all sorts of things. -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf =3D3D Of Dj Paddy Sent: 21 November 2006 11:34 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: Jaws V 8.0 I'm exercising a consumers right. The right to comment when I thinka product's crap and I think Jaws is. What's wrong with that? Dj Paddy =3D3DD0=3D3DE0=3D3D06 ----- Original Message -----=3D3D20 From: "Graham Page" <gpage@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 9:18 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Jaws V 8.0 seems to work well enough here I must say. don't know what you're =3D3D bleeting about. no one is forcing you to upgrade if you don't want to. Cheers graham ----- Original Message -----=3D3D20 From: "Dj Paddy" <mygroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 4:20 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Jaws V 8.0 This is shocking. I've just been reading the latest disaster and can not believe somebody =3D3D is honestly going to pay for this. This thing isn't even supporting Vista for goodness sake! And what is all that SAPI Alia's stuff about in say all? OMG, that's a new feature? More and more nonsense! I'm raging because, I like many wasted my money on this rubbish for =3D3D years! I'm disgusted because, many still will! Also rehab agency's and that = =3D3D whole area will thrust this product on unsuspecting souls. Note: this is a consumers viewpoint and I think it's utter pooh. Barry = =3D3D =3D3DD4=3D3DE0=3D3D06 ----- Original Message -----=3D3D20 From: "Ray's Home" <rays-home@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 3:39 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Jaws V 8.0 Andrew, for details of JAWS 8 go to: http://www.freedomscientific.com/fs_products/software_jaws80 fea.asp#OS From Ray I can be contacted off-list at: mailto:ray-48@xxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf = =3D3D Of andrew shipp Hi All, What are the benefits of upgrading to Jaws V 8.0? 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