[access-uk] Re: Ethics of book sharing services

  • From: "yusuf" <yusufaosman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 14:21:55 +0100

I had a conversation with someone at RNIB about this a while ago and was
told that it was fine for a blind person to scan a library book for personal
use. I think technically the person should delete the book off their system
when theyve returned the original to the library.

Given that my degree was in Middle Eastern history I had to scan %100 of my materials because none of them were available in accessible formats.
Yusuf
----- Original Message ----- From: "Tink Watson" <tink@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 10:22 AM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Ethics of book sharing services



Angel,

   I'm not completely familiar with the changes to the copyright law, but
is scanning permitted by individual people? I'd got the impression, from
listening to the copyright notices at the start of recent RNIB Talking
Books, that there needed to be a known organisation behind the copying and
distribution of any accessible format material. Does anyone know?

Cheers,
Tink.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Angel" <angel238@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2005 7:19 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Ethics of book sharing services



I think the copywrite laws allow outfits such as bookshare and the various
library services for the blind to reproduce their books for lending.
This
is why we are permitted to scan these books as well. Probably not all
publishers permit this, which is why I think the selection is limeted.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Damon" <damon.rose@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2005 1:03 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Ethics of book sharing services



Andrew ... if the publishers can't be bothered to make commercial
versions
of the books available to us in accessible formats, then they're not
going
to get any profit from us.  It's their own fault. They'd rather
characterise
us as a problem than come up with an accessible solution it seems.

I'd dearly love to be able to buy books from my favourite authors and
have
them benefit as a result of my purchase ... and hence encourage them to
write more books.

Until businesses stop seeing disabled peple as a problem and start
seeing
us
as a market, and as important, then the ethics of what we're doing to
gain
access to books is something of a side issue.  We can only conclude they
are
happy with the status quo and are perfectly happy to tolerate what we're
doing and they'd rather not have our money.

I find it bizarre.

...Damon







----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Hodgson" <andrew@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2005 5:53 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Ethics of book sharing services



Hi all,

Ok, recent discussion has prompted me to post these questions which I
wouldn't have necessairly posted, but had thought about when hearing of
Bookshare et al.

With Bookshare, you pay a flat fee each year to subscribe to the
service, which according to interviews with representatives from
Bookshare etc, they describe it as like a Napster service, but the books
are all on the Bookshare servers.

However, with this set-up, does the original author of the
book/publisher etc get anything back?  How do the publishers let these
books go onto the site, being that they may not see any of the money?
Furthermore, baring in mind book sales etc, when we download a book from
Bookshare or another similar service, this does not go to the tally of
the author, and so the books we read aren't added to the sales figures.
Yes, this last bit is a bit weak, because sighted people pass books
around etc.  However, I am just wondering what actually happens?

Discuss.
Andrew.


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