[access-uk] Re: Empty PDF Document?

  • From: "Peter Beasley" <p.beasley@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2007 16:04:14 +0100

I realise that tom but my point is thatyou would be able to read it were you 
able to see.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Tom Lorimer 
  To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2007 3:46 PM
  Subject: [access-uk] Re: Empty PDF Document?


  Yes you would be able to see the braille and read it with sight, but as it's 
a photograph you wouldn't be able to feel the braille with your fingers.

  Many years ago I was once sent a photo copy of a sheet of braille which of 
course was useless, and trying to get the person who sent it to me to 
understand that I couldn't read dots on a photograph was a total waste of time.

  Tom.

  ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Peter Beasley 
    To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2007 3:26 PM
    Subject: [access-uk] Re: Empty PDF Document?


    That's what I can't understand Tom.  If I could see, and was presented with 
a picture of a sheet of Braille, surely I would be able to see the braille. 
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Tom Lorimer 
      To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
      Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2007 2:35 PM
      Subject: [access-uk] Re: Empty PDF Document?


      The text has been saved to a graphic type file and no screen reader can 
read it. That's why it had to be scanned with OCR software.

      Just imagine someone taking a picture of a sheet of braille with a camera 
and sending it to you.
      The braille is all there in the picture, but try reading it and you'll 
begin to understand the difference.

      Cheers Tom.

        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Peter Beasley 
        To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
        Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2007 2:25 PM
        Subject: [access-uk] Re: Empty PDF Document?


        I was going to ask the same thing. What is the difference between a 
page of text and an image of a page of text? 
          ----- Original Message ----- 
          From: Joan Muir 
          To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
          Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2007 1:52 PM
          Subject: [access-uk] Re: Empty PDF Document?


          Yes, indeed. I'm most grateful to Peter. What I don't follow is why I 
got the message that it was empty. I don't understand the thing about images 
really.

          Best wishes,

          Joan.
            ----- Original Message ----- 
            From: Peter Beasley 
            To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
            Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2007 12:49 PM
            Subject: [access-uk] Re: Empty PDF Document?


            I printed it out and scanned it with k1000 for her.
              ----- Original Message ----- 
              From: Amro Bilal 
              To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
              Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2007 12:33 PM
              Subject: [access-uk] Re: Empty PDF Document?


              Joan, it might well be a PDF image. Run it through an OCR prog 
such as FineReader and see if you get any better results. 

              HTH,
              Amro
              ----- Original Message ----- 
                From: Joan Muir 
                To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
                Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 9:43 PM
                Subject: [access-uk] Empty PDF Document?


                Hi, Folks,

                I received an email with a PDF attachment. However, when I 
opened the document I got the message: Alert: empty document. Yet the 
attachment said 64 point something or other kb. How can this be?

                If someone would like to look at this I'd be happy to forward 
it to them as obviously I can't send it to the list.

                Best wishes,

                Joan.


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