Does anyone know whether RNIB is selling the sets at a discounted price and how that compares with Tapesense? And presumably, Tapesense isn't charging a handling fee? -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tristram Llewellyn Sent: 01 April 2005 09:55 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: Economical With The Truth? The RNIB can take some credit for foreseeing that this would be a need for blind radio listeners and did in fact attempt to develop the basis of a working specification for a blind friendly DAB set some years ago. However the problem was that RNIB had no real R&D cash to spend on such a product or even a manufacturing partner eventually after attempts to interest Roberts Radio failed. It was in fact been left to Pure themselves to put this into a proof of concept which it seems is selling rather well due to publicity on this list. The very considerable drop in memory prices is also a key factor in this which is not to be underestimated. Personally I'm not bothered what RNIB say where the radio came from, I don't suppose Pure will mind so long as it doesn't hurt sales, but it's stretching the truth a little if what has been reported about the editorial is true. Still if RNIB can put more sets in the hands of those of would need them then it has to be a good thing anyway. Regards. Tristram Llewellyn Sight and Sound Technology Technical Support www.sightandsound.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian Macrae" <ian.macrae@xxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 9:17 AM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Economical With The Truth? As far as I'm aware the RNIB was involved to to some extent with Pure in consultations over the set's accessibility. However, my understanding also is that Pure bore all the R&D costs and were responsible for having the idea in the first place. Two other things strike me. First, none of the publicity even suggests that RNIB was a partner in the initiative. Second, it's interesting to note that Pure is offering the radio primarily as a mainstream device with the benefits to blind people being secondary in their sales pitch. All of this suggests a certain loose use of language in the New Beacon copy. Cheers now. Ian -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tyrer, Jonathan Sent: 01 April 2005 09:11 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: Economical With The Truth? Was it an advert or was it editorial? Jonathan -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of George Bell Sent: 01 April 2005 08:29 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: Economical With The Truth? So why not take the case up with the Advertising Standards Authority! George. _____ From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ray's Home Sent: 01 April 2005 05:38 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: Economical With The Truth? Ian. No, defenitely NO. Such dishonest utterances by RNIB are pure drivel. The credit rests with Pure, and this list, I would say, for this radio appearing. True, RNIB have campaigned for accessability of products, but this New Beacon proclamation is damn lies. Ray Personal emails: Email me at mailto:ray-48@xxxxxxxx ----- Original Message ----- From: Iain Lackie <mailto:ilackie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 12:10 AM Subject: [access-uk] Economical With The Truth? Hello, I have just been looking at the current issue of New Beacon and in the New Products and Consumer news section there is a piece about the Pure Digital Sonus-1Xt. Having eulogised about its features, we read the sentence, 'All of this, and much more, is available now from the latest product launched by RNIB. My dictionary tells me that one of the meanings of 'launch' is ''To bring (a new product) on to the market, especially with promotions and publicity'. This product may be new to the RNIB catalogue, but can they really be said to have launched it? Was the radio really available from RNIB before anyone else? Can RNIB take any real credit for this product? It is I am sure agood thing that RNIB is selling the product, but, unless I am mistaken (and this is very likely to be the case), Can RNIB in any truly meaningful sense claim to have launched it? Iain. _____ This Message has been scanned for viruses by McAfee Groupshield. -- DISCLAIMER: NOTICE: The information contained in this email and any attachments is confidential and may be privileged. 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