Hi Steve
Yes, but the concern is that you can't detach the Braille display, meaning
that when the machine outdates or has a problem, the Braille display is
redundant. Out of curiosity, what is the spec of that machine?
Kind regards,
Jackie Brown
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Hi,
The EsyTime Evolution from Eurobraille is a 32 cell Windows 10 laptop.
It has the advantage of 4GB of RAM, and Office seems quite snappy on it.
Disclaimer: I do sell it, but any questions, fire them at me.
All the best
Steve
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Subject: [access-uk] Re: ELBRAILLE
Hi Adi
I am just about to buy a new unit.
So I asked on this list for help.
I am not an expert; I lost my sight late in life.
This list is a life saver for people like me.
This group has hands on experience and knowledge.
I am grateful for your input but might I make two observations:
Firstly: you promise an upcoming improvement, jam tomorrow not Jam today.
You shroud this in secrecy: why?
This group could have terrific input.
Secondly: the unit isn't working as well as people hoped.
Perhaps this is because our expectations are too high, or your sales team
have overstated its capacity.
Yes it is great news about the ability to upgrade but I don't want a unit
which at this time is useless.
If I could have a 14 or 40 cell Widows 10 computer which worked I would be
so happy.
Regards
Jeff
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Date: Friday, 10 August 2018 9:42 am
Subject: [access-uk] Re: ELBRAILLE
ever in this configuration and become a useless machine.
Hi all,
I saw your comments on the ElBraille, and the question if it will stay
for
stay as is. There will be a refresh once a year or once in 2 years, but soon
I just want to make you aware of that we are not planning to let
ElBraille
Stay tuned.apparently unscrupulous developers and distributors? Or perhaps they are as
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Isn't it shameful that stuff like this is being sold to people by
Ian Macraewrote:
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On 9 Aug 2018, at 18:12, Jackie Brown <jackieannbrown62@xxxxxxxxx>
agree with everything you write. Another issue is that you can't put it in a
Yes John, agreed, completely.
Kind regards,
Jackie Brown
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Hi Jackie, Sadly, having owned an ElBraille 14 for a year now, I
have to
Remember that ElBraille is essentially a Compute Stick in a box with some
John
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I think it's ok if you just want to do very basic things with it.
market before it's the finished article. With this and other devices the
Kind regards,
Jackie Brown
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Sounds like yet another example of a blind tech product being sent
to
wrote:Ian Macrae
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On 9 Aug 2018, at 11:44, Jackie Brown <jackieannbrown62@xxxxxxxxx>
problem isn't often resolved.
Hi Jeff
Here's mine then.
At first glance, and when you don't have many applications running
on it, ElBraille is not bad. But once you start using Office, or
other applications that are bulky and memory hungry, forget it!
Support is awful to be honest. You have to wait for an
unacceptable length of time to get through and, when you do, your
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ElBraille has a small drive which is split between the onboard
memory and an SD card that is fitted internally. It means that
this is not a proper version of Windows 10, because you can't
restore it, and there are ElBraille folders on it that make
formatting and restoring hard to do without sighted assistance.
I also have concerns about the long term partnership of Elita Group
with VFO Group. There always seems to be a problem with what is
coming out, what is pure conjecture, and who supports what.
I sold mine earlier this year. Before I could, however, I had to
return it to S and S for some kind person there to reset the whole
thing and remove my details so it was clean to sell on. I couldn't
perform a clean Windows restore or install because Elita haven't
included the image to do this in the package.
So, all in all, steer well clear for now. I'm not saying it won't
happen in the future, but the fact there is such an incredible
delay tells me there are issues, so I don't think it's viable.
This is such a great pity as I had hoped that a portable Windows 10
device would be really useful. Not so for me at least!
Kind regards,
Jackie Brown
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Sent: 09 August 2018 10:41
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Subject: [access-uk] ELBRAILLE
I have seen ELBRAILLE, 14 that is, at a couple of the exhibitions.
Frankly, I was under whelmed by the people showing it.
My fear about it is, will it be another bit of kit which will be
obsolescent within a couple of years?
Also is the spec good enough run at less than a snails pace?
I am also waiting for the 40 cell version where the display will be
removeable.
although I can't now remember why!!
I notice that on this list nobody has mentioned it much!
Would love to hear some views!
Cheers
Jeff
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