Hi all,
I saw your comments on the ElBraille, and the question if it will stay for ever
in this configuration and become a useless machine.
I just want to make you aware of that we are not planning to let ElBraille stay
as is. There will be a refresh once a year or once in 2 years, but soon we are
going to make a step that will make you happy, which no one did yet in terms of
upgradability.
Stay tuned.
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Sent: Thursday, August 9, 2018 9:20 PM
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Subject: [access-uk] Re: ELBRAILLE
Isn’t it shameful that stuff like this is being sold to people by apparently
unscrupulous developers and distributors? Or perhaps they are as unaware of
the system’s inadequacies as the customers who are shelling out good money on
what is essentially a pig in a poke?
Ian Macrae
ian.macrae1@xxxxxxx
On 9 Aug 2018, at 18:12, Jackie Brown <jackieannbrown62@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Yes John, agreed, completely.
Kind regards,
Jackie Brown
Email: jackieannbrown62@xxxxxxxxx
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John Gurd (Redacted sender "j.gurd" for DMARC)
Sent: 09 August 2018 17:57
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Subject: [access-uk] Re: ELBRAILLE
Hi Jackie, Sadly, having owned an ElBraille 14 for a year now, I have to
agree with everything you write. Another issue is that you can't put it in a
'sleep' state ready to use quickly when needed. It takes forever sometimes to
boot up and I find it can lock up when updating or booting up.
John
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Jackie Brown
Sent: 09 August 2018 12:02
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Subject: [access-uk] Re: ELBRAILLE
I think it's ok if you just want to do very basic things with it. Remember
that ElBraille is essentially a Compute Stick in a box with some
modifications to make it accessible with a Braille display and JAWS. But
with only 2gb of RAM and such a tiny hard drive, it's hard to imagine
ElBraille in its current guise being able to keep up with Windows and Office
updates. I love the concept as I am an out and out Windows user, but it
really lacks memory. To be honest, I took it and my U2 to Scotland earlier
this year because I wanted to see how they compared for Email and reading
documents. Honestly? The U2 won hands down. By the time I booted up
ElBraille and opened Outlook to fetch my messages, I was already reading them
on the U2. And when I wanted to open Word to do some writing, I could just
turn on the U2, open its word processor and start hammering away. So I
popped ElBraille back into my luggage and continued using the U2. What does
that tell you?
Kind regards,
Jackie Brown
Email: jackieannbrown62@xxxxxxxxx
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Ian Macrae (Redacted sender "ian.macrae1" for DMARC)
Sent: 09 August 2018 11:53
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Subject: [access-uk] Re: ELBRAILLE
Sounds like yet another example of a blind tech product being sent to market
before it’s the finished article. With this and other devices the main aim
appears to be for companies to maximise cash flow by selling stuff as early
as possible. Some of us had a similar experience with another product which
was let loose on the blind public before it was anywhere fully ready which
some might argue it isn’t even now, some years after its original release.
Ian Macrae
ian.macrae1@xxxxxxx
On 9 Aug 2018, at 11:44, Jackie Brown <jackieannbrown62@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi Jeff
Here's mine then.
At first glance, and when you don't have many applications running on
it, ElBraille is not bad. But once you start using Office, or other
applications that are bulky and memory hungry, forget it!
Support is awful to be honest. You have to wait for an unacceptable
length of time to get through and, when you do, your problem isn't often
resolved.
ElBraille has a small drive which is split between the onboard memory
and an SD card that is fitted internally. It means that this is not
a proper version of Windows 10, because you can't restore it, and
there are ElBraille folders on it that make formatting and restoring
hard to do without sighted assistance.
I also have concerns about the long term partnership of Elita Group
with VFO Group. There always seems to be a problem with what is
coming out, what is pure conjecture, and who supports what.
I sold mine earlier this year. Before I could, however, I had to
return it to S and S for some kind person there to reset the whole
thing and remove my details so it was clean to sell on. I couldn't
perform a clean Windows restore or install because Elita haven't
included the image to do this in the package.
So, all in all, steer well clear for now. I'm not saying it won't
happen in the future, but the fact there is such an incredible delay
tells me there are issues, so I don't think it's viable. This is
such a great pity as I had hoped that a portable Windows 10 device
would be really useful. Not so for me at least!
Kind regards,
Jackie Brown
Email: jackieannbrown62@xxxxxxxxx
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jeff
Sent: 09 August 2018 10:41
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Subject: [access-uk] ELBRAILLE
I have seen ELBRAILLE, 14 that is, at a couple of the exhibitions.
Frankly, I was under whelmed by the people showing it.
My fear about it is, will it be another bit of kit which will be
obsolescent within a couple of years?
Also is the spec good enough run at less than a snails pace?
I am also waiting for the 40 cell version where the display will be
removeable.
although I can't now remember why!!
I notice that on this list nobody has mentioned it much!
Would love to hear some views!
Cheers
Jeff
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