I have never used or even seen Lookout and do not know
how well it works or how easy or intuitive it is to use.
Which screenreader is preferable and more easy to use is
largely a matter of preference in my opinion. I am a
jaws user primarily as this is the screenreader I was first introduced to
when
I lost my sight 12 years ago. Thus jaws is what I use best and
find easiest to use. Several of my friends, however, are Window eyes
users and find WE much easier to use.
I have played with WE a bit but never got the hang of
it. I have used Thunder, sa2go and nvda to some extent. On my
system, Thunder in it various versions has kept crashing. Thunder also
does not - or has not - worked directly with Internet Explorer or
Firefox. The latest version supposedly does work directly with IE
instead of the text-based "WebIE" frontend but when I tried it, was
extremely sluggish and did not work well at all.
sa2go is easy to use and works with quite a number of
applications. The free version, however, requires an active internet
connection. This limits its usefulness. I use nvda for my portable
computing needs and find it quite stable and responsive. It's main
drawback is its lack of screen review cursor and lack of mouse
emulation. it is able to perform mouse clicks on an object under the
physical mouse cursor but thus far lacks the ability to emulate
the mouse as jaws or we do. NVDA has a review mode that
moves the focus according to the widnow hierarchy. this is a bit similar
in nature to what "home row mode" Or the "Bart Explorer" tool do
in jaws but I personally never mastered those either and find this
sort of review mode less than easy and intuitive to use. nvda is
undergoing constant development, though, and there has
been a lot of progress made recently that is going to be incorporated in
future
releases.
Since all are free alternatives and will coexist quite
happily on the same machine - none have a video intercept - I would
personally recommend that your friend try out Thunder,
nvda and sa2go and see what works best for him. He might end up using two
or all three for different purposes. For example, he might find sa2go
best to use as long as he has an online connection and use nvda
for offline use.
hth
Doris
At 10:22 AM 4/29/2010 +0100, you wrote:
Would you say that Thundre and NVDA are easier to use?
----- Original Message -----
From: "TONY CRETNEY" <rac@xxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 10:06 AM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Dual and Lookout
Yes this is correct Doris and Chris. The lookout
screen reader was a very low cost screen reader which
came out a number of years ago. There was a
magnification system called Magnice which came out
around the same time produced by the same stable. I
used to have lookout but never actually mastered it as
it had a lot more in the way of keystrokes than I have
ever known a screen reader to have. The combination
product with lookout and Magnice was called Dual as far
as I can remember. Tony
----- Original Message -----
From: "Doris and Chris" <chipmunks@xxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 10:21 AM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Dual and Lookout
> Could this be the Lookout screenreader, a lowcost
> offering put
out by > the
> ppl who now make Thunder?
>
> I believe Lookout used some sort of offscreen model
> but wasn't
the > hottest
> in functionality. I think there also was a lowcost
> screen
magnifier to > go
> with this but I do not know details.
>
> hth
>
> Doris
>
>
>
>
> At 09:44 AM 4/28/2010 +0100, you wrote:
>>Has anyone ever heard of software called Dual and
>>Look out? I
have >>been
>>asked to help a guy who claims to have these as
>>speech
and >>magnification.
>>He says it's not working but it's difficult to find
>>out
much >>information
>>over the telephone as he doesn't seem to know much
>>about it.
>>Cheers
>>
>>Barry
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