[access-uk] Re: Does the digital age spell the end of Braille? - News - Gadgets and Tech - The Independent
- From: "Jackie Brown" <thebrownsplace@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 22 May 2014 16:55:26 +0100
Hi Norman
I agree with that. It was my siblings who taught me capital letters. Seems
a long time ago now! (smile).
Kind regards,
Jackie Brown
Twitter: @thebrownsplace
Skype: Thejackmate
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From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Norman Waddington
Sent: 22 May 2014 14:22
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Does the digital age spell the end of Braille? -
News - Gadgets and Tech - The Independent
Jackie,
I quite agree with you in that I went through the blind school system. One
thing I would point out though taking a different tack. Blind children
should if at all possible be taught to write their name properly if at all
possible. Perhaps they could also be taught to write notes for sighted
people?
Norman.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
> Of Jackie Brown
> Sent: 22 May 2014 12:33
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Does the digital age spell the end of Braille? -
> News - Gadgets and Tech - The Independent
>
> Interesting Eleanor. Perhaps people like Steve Nutt and I were lucky to
> have good Braille tuition at our school in that era. It is one of the few
> things about boarding-school I guess I am grateful for. And I suppose it
> depends whether you like using Braille and can make it the tool it has
> always been for me at least. I am passionate about it, and I am not sure
> there is a day that passes when I don't come into contact with it for
> something.
>
> True everyone is different, but I will never be dissuaded from the belief
> that youngsters today should be taught Braille wherever possible if they
> have a severe visual impairment where print is of no value to them.
>
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Jackie Brown
> Twitter: @thebrownsplace
> Skype: Thejackmate
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
> Of
> Eleanor Martha Burke
> Sent: 22 May 2014 12:14
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Does the digital age spell the end of Braille? -
> News - Gadgets and Tech - The Independent
>
> Indeed that is correct. I am just talking about my own experience and how
> learning Braille for me did not assist me well in Capitalisation,
> punctuation and spelling.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
> Of
> Karl Proud
> Sent: 22 May 2014 12:12
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Does the digital age spell the end of Braille? -
> News - Gadgets and Tech - The Independent
>
> I would have thought that capitalisation and other punctuation would be
> easily taught using type and speech as well as if using braille?
>
> Karl
> On 22 May 2014, at 11:56 am, "Eleanor Martha Burke"
> <eleanormarthaburke@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Continuing the discussion Jackie, I learned Braille at school and still
> use
> it, however I did not learn capitalisation, other than that I was informed
> that one always puts a capital letter after a full stop. American Braille
> however, includes capitalisation and punctuation. It was only as an adult
> Braillist that I learned all the symbols that indicated punctuation such
> as
> underline, italic etc. As for spelling I am not good at spelling and I
> personally attribute this to Braille Grade ii but there you are!
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> Of
> Jackie Brown
> Sent: 22 May 2014 11:32
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Does the digital age spell the end of Braille? -
> News - Gadgets and Tech - The Independent
>
> Hi Vince
>
> Not sure how much we are wandering here, but I do think it is relevant to
> assistive technology.
>
> What concerns me about the reliance, if you like, on speech all the time
> for
> visually impaired youngsters - especially those with no sight at all - is
> that they are less likely to spell, punctuate and capitalise
> appropriately.
> You miss these things with speech unless you are patient enough to go
> through everything you listen to letter by letter. If these crucial
> elements are not taught to blind children in mainstream education because
> it
> is considered that Braille is unnecessary, I really believe the kids are
> missing out.
>
> Had my son been born with any eye condition, I would have taught him to
> read
> and write Braille myself, unquestionably. While I type more than Braille
> these days, I am lucky enough to be able to swap just like that.
>
> Martin has acquired sight loss due to RP, but he taught himself to read
> and
> write grade two Braille a few years ago in case he ever needed it. While
> he
> reads with his fingers quite slowly, he has a great memory for everything
> he
> taught himself.
>
> I just can't see Braille dying out in the immediate future, certainly not
> while I am alive with any luck! (smile).
>
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Jackie Brown
> Twitter: @thebrownsplace
> Skype: Thejackmate
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
> Of
> Vincent Thacker
> Sent: 21 May 2014 23:35
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Does the digital age spell the end of Braille? -
> News - Gadgets and Tech - The Independent
>
>
>
> Jackie,
>
> I didn't achieve registration as blind until I was about 54, by which time
> I
> had too much else going on to fit learning Braile in as well. Sorry to say
> that I've taken the line of least resistance and use a screen reader for
> almost everything.
>
> I did learn a bit of Braille at my local blind society in the end, but
> didn't get any further than "a sad lad" and "dad will yell at you" and
> such
> things. Then I had to stop because of other commitments.
>
> But I agree that for children, it's surely an advantage to know Braille,
> even just as a quality of life measure. How else are the kids going to get
> any private reading, or private writing, for that matter? Great though
> audio
> books are, they are not the same as reading a book in print. It's too
> passive somehow to my mind. I'm sure reading Braille would come closer to
> the printed word.
>
> Just my tuppence worth, as someone who knows nothing but won't shut up.
>
> Vince.
>
>
>
>
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> Message Received: May 21 2014, 05:02 PM
> From: "Jackie Brown"
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Cc:
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Does the digital age spell the end of
> Braille? - News - Gadgets and Tech - The Independent
>
> Hi Clive
>
> Yes, same goes for me. And I do believe children born blind should
> still be
> strongly encouraged to read and write good Braille wherever this is
> possible.
>
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Jackie Brown
> Twitter: @thebrownsplace
> Skype: Thejackmate
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of
> Clive.Lever@xxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: 21 May 2014 16:28
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Does the digital age spell the end of
> Braille? -
> News - Gadgets and Tech - The Independent
>
> Hello,
>
> I read less and listen more. This is partly because there is much
> more
> literature accessible to us now that listening to audio books has
> become a
> sighted thing. However, one reason I don't have a personal problem
> with this
> change in my reading habits is that I already know how to
> communicate in
> writing...I hope! However, I'd hate to have been born blind and
> never had
> the chance to read and write independently.
>
> Best,
> Clive
>
>
> Clive Lever
> Diversity and Equality Officer
> Kent County Council
>
> Office: 01622 221163
> Email: clive.lever@xxxxxxxxxxx
>
>
> Kent County Council
> Room G37
> Sessions House
> Maidstone, Kent.
> ME14 1XQ
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of
> Gordon Keen
> Sent: 21 May 2014 16:21
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Does the digital age spell the end of
> Braille? -
> News - Gadgets and Tech - The Independent
>
> Hi
>
> Yes that was my take on the article as well, however I decided to
> post the
> article as I felt that some might want to visit the exhibition with
> a view
> to expressing their opinion once they had actually attended.
>
> Regards
>
> G
>
> From Bridgerule in glorious Devon, England.
> .
>
> On 21 May 2014, at 15:44, Iain Lackie
> wrote:
>
> > I wasn't aware that the journalist was dismissing braille. If
> anything,
> the professor was concerned that blind people were being denied
> access to
> braille due to the rise of the use of other digital sources of
> information.
> I think it unfair to blame the journalist for expressing the fears
> of
> someone else. If braille is not taught, of course it will die out. I
> have to
> say that even as a braille user, I read much less braille than I
> used to. I
> don't read any less, however.
> >
> > Iain
> >
>
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