Hello David, if you're still with us, The simplest way to explain it is that I have heard Braille Shorthand casually referred to as 'grade 3 Braille". Best, Clive Clive Lever Diversity and Equality Officer Kent County Council Office: 01622 221163 Email: clive.lever@xxxxxxxxxxx Kent County Council Room G37 Sessions House Maidstone, Kent. ME14 1XQ -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David Halliwell Sent: 22 May 2014 16:09 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: Does the digital age spell the end of Braille? - News - Gadgets and Tech - The Independent Dear Norman, Thank you for your post to the Access List regarding Shorthand Braille. I have tempoarily unsubscribed from the list, as life is too short to read about individual's experiences with Braille; we all have them, and they're all different, but broadly the same, we use braille less for better or worse. I am a braille fan, and would be interested in understanding more about "braille shorthand" is this different to grade 2? Yours with thanks David Sent from my iPhone > On 22 May 2014, at 14:07, "Norman Waddington" > <normanwaddington504@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Jackie, > > One of the problems is the fact that if something is not used it is not used > Braille Shorthand being a good example. I can read it and write it and I am > prepared to teach it. People tell me there is no demand these days for > Braille shorthand. Once I have gone the skill will be lost if it is not > passed on to others to keep it going point made? > > Another point is the fact that authorities decide when Braille should be > introduced to kids at school. Surely the sooner the better. If we get > power cuts what will they do then? No analog skills are being taught as far > as I can see to a greater or lesser extent! > > Norman. > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf >> Of Jackie Brown >> Sent: 21 May 2014 16:59 >> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Does the digital age spell the end of Braille? - >> News - Gadgets and Tech - The Independent >> >> I just get really irritated over the misconceptions Braille and blindness >> cause. I've read bits and pieces in the past with people forecasting the >> imminent demise of Braille. Obviously demand will fade away if people >> stop >> using it, but I think we are a long way from that, digital age or not. >> >> >> Kind regards, >> >> Jackie Brown >> Twitter: @thebrownsplace >> Skype: Thejackmate >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf >> Of >> Gordon Keen >> Sent: 21 May 2014 16:21 >> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Does the digital age spell the end of Braille? - >> News - Gadgets and Tech - The Independent >> >> Hi >> >> Yes that was my take on the article as well, however I decided to post the >> article as I felt that some might want to visit the exhibition with a view >> to expressing their opinion once they had actually attended. >> >> Regards >> >> G >> >> From Bridgerule in glorious Devon, England. >> . >> >> On 21 May 2014, at 15:44, Iain Lackie <ilackie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> wrote: >> >>> I wasn't aware that the journalist was dismissing braille. If anything, >> the professor was concerned that blind people were being denied access to >> braille due to the rise of the use of other digital sources of >> information. >> I think it unfair to blame the journalist for expressing the fears of >> someone else. If braille is not taught, of course it will die out. I have >> to >> say that even as a braille user, I read much less braille than I used to. >> I >> don't read any less, however. >>> >>> Iain >> >> ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- >> ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] >> ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: >> ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> ** and in the Subject line type >> ** unsubscribe >> ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the >> ** immediately-following link:- >> ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] >> ** or send a message, to >> ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq >> >> ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- >> ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] >> ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: >> ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> ** and in the Subject line type >> ** unsubscribe >> ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the >> ** immediately-following link:- >> ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] >> ** or send a message, to >> ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq > > > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] > ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > ** and in the Subject line type > ** unsubscribe > ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the > ** immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] > ** or send a message, to > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq