[access-uk] Re: DAISY FORMAT AND MP3'S USED IN OVERDRIVE
- From: "Long, Alison" <Alison.Long@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2015 16:08:38 +0000
Hi,
I just wanted to respond on this topic and set the record straight as it were.
We have no plans to phase out DAISY.
We still believe Daisy offers the very best navigation and continue to record
all our Talking Books in Daisy format. At the same time, we are content
producers and some customers (the minority) have told us that they want titles
which don't have Daisy formatting and which can play on simple cheap USB
players like the Sovereign and via digital download. So in response we have
introduced USB and digital download options (via RNIB Overdrive).
Overdrive is a mainstream library platform and does not support Daisy
formatting. Overdrive isn't for readers who want full Daisy functionality. RNIB
titles on Overdrive have a fixed skip point of every 3 minutes. Many customers
don't use this preferring to use bookmarking.
RNIB titles on USB are issued with Daisy formatting. Whether this is available
to the reader or not depends on their player. The cheaper players cannot
access Daisy formatting on USB. The more expensive players with USB can.
I hope I've reassured you and clarified RNIB's position.
Regards
Alison
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From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Shaun O'Connor
Sent: 02 February 2015 01:12
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: DAISY FORMAT AND MP3'S USED IN OVERDRIVE
Usually when one hears the line "(product name here) will be around for the
foreseeable future" it s just doublespeak for telling people to prepare for
the product to be phased out over time,( usually the time-scale for phasing out
has been well planned in advance but the details have not been published" until
the appropriate time").
A good indicator of a failing project or product is if there is an associated
forum or blog, look to see when the most recent posting was in the
announcements or news portion of the forum or blog. If there has ben no
activity for a period of about three to six months, then you can in most cases
kiss that particular project or product goodbye.
However having said that, there is always the possibility that said product,
project or service is being handed over to a third party to be serviced by them
instead or even just left for the user community to use with no official
support from the original developers.
On 01/02/2015 23:55, Carol.Pearson29@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
Yes, I completely concur with what you say here. I couldn't do without
my markup for Daisy Bible either.
What they're saying is that you're not being forced to go that route
and can stay with Daisy if you wish, but I too think there's possibly a hidden
agenda to phase out Daisy. A number of those who loaned players now no longer
have them as they were all suffering overwork or whatever, and I know this has
meant that a particular book club has dwindled rapidly as they no longer have
the players. However, I maintain they're cheap enough and there are
second-hand models around and Daisy surely is well worth fighting to keep.
Therefore, I don't mind considering taking books from OverDrive, but
I'd never want to do this and suggest by doing so that I don't mind if Daisy is
gradually phased out, because I do!
I think that's just made up my mind that, though I was seriously
thinking of trying it, I'm now not going to and will ask for Daisy books
instead.
Incidentally, I've heard the phrase used "Daisy will be around for the
foreseeable future ..." and what does that mean!
Carol P
----- Original Message -----
From: Steve Nutt <mailto:steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2015 6:10 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: DAISY FORMAT AND MP3'S USED IN
OVERDRIVE
Hi Carol,
It really depends on the type of book you are reading. For
example, I have the Daisy version of the NIV Bible from Torch. You can move as
little as a verse, by moving by phrase. No way can you do that in any
Overdrive book, because there is no markup. This is why I maintain that we are
not getting an equal service to theCD users, who get full Daisy markup. Can
you imagine if there was a Bible on Overdrive and you could only move by an
arbitrary number of minutes? Wouldn't make for much in the way of interesting
navigation, would it? I get the feeling that RNIB would like to abandon Daisy
by taking this action, but can't be sure.
All the best
Steve
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From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Carol.Pearson29@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: 30 January 2015 22:02
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Subject: [access-uk] DAISY FORMAT AND MP3'S USED IN OVERDRIVE
Hi all,
I'm seeking to get a better understanding of what actually
works and what doesn't. I really love Daisy and am told that, even in
Overdrive, certain things, such as headers, will work. I understand also that
RNIB have markers every three minutes in their books in this library.
Can anyone who is well used to the ease and luxury of Daisy
please tell me any more about the restrictions OverDrive presents when these
books are transferred to the Victor Stream.
Thanks for any input on this one.
Carol P
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