[access-uk] Re: Contactless payment cards (was Accessible bank card)

  • From: "Barry Hill" <barry.hill3@xxxxxxx>
  • To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2015 06:17:15 +0100

Thanks for that, Steve. I'll stop searching for an app for my humble 4s
now. Sigh. The Galaxy 6 is looking just that little bit more appealing.

Cheers

Barry




-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Steve Nutt
Sent: Monday, April 06, 2015 9:05 PM
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Contactless payment cards (was Accessible bank
card)

Hi,

The iPhone doesn't have NFC. The 6 and 6 Plus may have it, I believe they
do, but certainly not the 5 and downwards.

All the best

Steve

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-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Barry Hill
Sent: 06 April 2015 15:29
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Contactless payment cards (was Accessible bank
card)

Thanks for this. I tried finding a similar app for the iPhone, but with no
success. It may be that the iPhone does not have Near Field Contact
technology where Android phones do. Still, whilst searching for the iPhone
app, I came across this great article from someone who tried and failed to
double pay with a contactless card. Read on for details of using mobiles as
contactless payments.

http://www.standard.co.uk/lifestyle/london-life/the-cashfree-challenge-are-c
ontactless-cards-a-safe-way-to-pay-8642245.html

Cheers

Barry


-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
lsmithso@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, April 06, 2015 2:48 PM
To: access uk
Subject: [access-uk] Contactless payment cards (was Accessible bank card)


Hi: A while ago there was a conversation on here about the accessability and
security of contactless payment cards. I received mine a few weeks ago, and
finally got around to testing if I could read it with a smart phone.

The answer is yes. I can read the card number, the expiry date, card type,
the card issuer and the number of PIN attempts left, and that was that. The
card holders name and the cvv cryptogram are not readable.

The card has to be held within 1cm of the back of the phone for about
0.5 seconds for it to be read. It could be reliably read when inside my
wallet, in my trouser pocket. Wrapping the card in a single thickness of
cooking foil completely prevented the card from being read.

Given that less information is exposed by NFC than is available from a
casual glance of the card, and that any eavesdropper would have to get
pretty touchy feely to be able to scan my card without my knowledge, then
I'm pretty relaxed about having this card in my wallet. I feel no more
vulnerable than if I used a non-contactless card.

App details:
Banking card reader NFC (EMV)
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.github.devnied.emvnfccard&;
hl=en

Android Nexus 5.

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