Ian said "All they'd need to do is sample spoken numbers from zero to nine so that the unit could be made to read out the randomly generated code." But then how would a Deafblind person be aware what the numbers where if can't her it? I THINK it's possible that those of us that won't be able to use the system could be exempt form the rule to use it! After all, blind people even now are exempt FORM THE RULE TO USE CHIP AND PUB IN THE SHOTS, WHICH IS RIDICULOUS BECAUSE IF PEOPLE CAN USE A TELEPHONE WHY CANNOT SANE PERSON NOT BE ABLE TO USE THE KEY PADS IN THE SHOPS? I THINK THE TRUTH IS THAT AS FAR AS THE KEY PADS IN SHOPS GO THERE ARE SOME BLIND PEOPLE THAT JUST DON'T LIKE CHANGE, SO THEY USE THERE DISABILITY AS A REASON TO OPT OUT, EVEN THOUGH THEY COULD EASILY USE THE KEY PADS IN SHOPS, THEY IF WANTED TO. Regards, Derek e-mail: derek.hornby_uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq