[access-uk] Re: Chip and pin machine, was Accessible bank card

  • From: "Adrien Collins" <adriencollins22160@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2015 16:45:47 +0100

Hi 

Yes this is my preferred method.

Regards

Adrien


-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of martin wilsher
Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 9:47 AM
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Chip and pin machine, was
Accessible bank card

Think most banks have agreements with the post office now to
allow
withdrawals and deposits to account of cash.  Btw, cheques
will take longer
if deposited with the po rather than with bank branch.

-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Barry Hill
Sent: 04 March 2015 08:44
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Chip and pin machine, was
Accessible bank card

Do you have to have an account with the post office to
withdraw money there
or can you use any bank debit card?  




-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
lsmithso@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 7:52 AM
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Chip and pin machine, was
Accessible bank card


I always withdraw cash over the Post Office counter.  All I
have to deal
with is the chip & PIN terminal. In addition to the bump on
the digit 5,
there is a circle on the enter key and a "x" on the cancel
key.

Barry Hill writes:
 > Although there are many different designs of chip and pin
machines, one
> thing you can rely on with chip and pin machines is that
there is a 
> pip on the number 5 and the enter button is always at the
bottom right.
 >
 > Cheers
 >
 > Barry
 >
 >
 > -----Original Message-----
 > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of  > Derek Hornby  > Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 8:43 PM
> To:
access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx  > Subject: [access-uk] Re:
Accessible bank card  >
> Yes,  I think  sometimes,  some people don't like change.
 >
 > For example why  is there chip and signature?
 >
 > Surely  if one is able to use  a mobile  they should be
able  to use chip
> and  PIN  >  > The only problem with  chip and PIN  is,
in my view, 
> the
key  pad  design  > can vary.
 >
 > Derek
 >
 >
 > -----Original Message-----
 > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of  > lsmithso@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx  > Sent: Tuesday, March 03,
2015 8:19 PM  >
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx  > Subject: [access-uk] Re:
Accessible bank card
>  >  > And for balance:
 >
 >
http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/saving/article-2328578/Ho
w-safe-new
 > -contactless-bank-cards.html
 >
 >
http://www.which.co.uk/money/credit-cards-and-loans/guides/c
ontactless
 > -cards/
 >
 >
http://www.computing.co.uk/ctg/analysis/2327179/contactless-
payments-a
 > re-we-sacrificing-security-for-convenience
 >
 >
 > Interestingly, you are responsible for the first £50 of
losses due to
fraud  > (is that standard for any kind of card), and
contactless terminals
ask for a  > PIN after every six or so transactions.
 >
 >
 > Derek Hornby writes: > Hi Barry > You may find this link
of  > interest:
 >  >
 >  >
 >
http://ask-leo.com/can_my_credit_card_information_be_read_re
motely.htm
 >  > l
 >  >
 >  > it's about reading  credit cards  remotely  >  > Derek
>  >  >  >  >
> -----Original Message-----  > From:
access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx  >
[mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On  > Behalf Of Barry Hill
> Sent:
 > Tuesday, March 03, 2015 5:41 PM  > To:
access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx  >
Subject:
 > [access-uk] Re: Accessible bank card  >  > Ah, thanks for
that.  Could  >
someone else use their smart phone to read  > your  > card
if they got close
> enough, which isn't difficult with blind  > people?
 >  >
 >  > Cheers
 >  >
 >  > Barry
 >  >
 >  >
 >  > -----Original Message-----
 >  > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On  >
> Behalf Of  > lsmithso@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx  > Sent: Tuesday,
March 03, 
> 2015
4:51  > PM  > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx  > Subject:
[access-uk] Re:
Accessible  > bank card  >  >  > NFC = Near Field
Communications = The
technology used to  > read  > contactless  > smart cards,
payment cards etc.
I believe that the  > card number, expiry  > date  > etc can
be easily read
by a smart phone. Its  > then a simple step to  > read  >
those out loud
using the 'phones TTS. It  > looks like contactless  >
versions of  >
credit/debit cards are available  > from a lot of banks, so
this may be  >
an  > alternative to adding Braille  > to credit cards. 
 >  >
 >  >
 >  > Barry Hill writes: > What's
 >  > an NFC app, please?
 >  >  >
 >  >  > Cheers
 >  >  >
 >  >  > Barry
 >  >  >
 >  >  >
 >  >  > -----Original Message-----
 >  >  > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>  > Behalf  > Of  > lsmithso@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx  > Sent:
Tuesday, March 
> 03,
2015  > 10:13  >  > AM  >  >  > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject:
[access-uk] Re: Accessible  >  > bank card  > >  >  > Can
the card details
be read from a contactless payment  > card  > by a  > NFC
app on  > a smart
phone? Is there an app waiting to be  > written  > here?
 >  >  >
 >  >  >
 >  >  > goshawk on horseback writes:
 >  >  >  > just my personal point of view, but I think it
would have been a
>  > far  > > better idea to work out ways around what is
almost 
> certainly
the  >  > hardest  > and  > most frustrating thing with bank
or credit
cards, that of  > > accessing  > the  > details needed to
actually use the
card, such as card  > number,  > start  > and  > expirey
dates, and back
security number, rather  > than prannying  > around  > with
> all these
fancy ideas that don't really  > do a lot to improve  >
usability. 
 >  >  >  >
 >  >  >  > Simon
 >  >  >  >
 >  >  >  > 
 >  >  >  >   ----- Original Message ----- 
 >  >  >  >   From: Barry Hill 
 >  >  >  >   To: angie.matthews@xxxxxxx 
 >  >  >  >   Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 8:01 AM
 >  >  >  >   Subject: [access-uk] Accessible bank card
 >  >  >  >
 >  >  >  > 
 >  >  >  >   RBS and NatWest launch accessible cards for
partially
 > sighted
 >  > and
 >  > blind
 >  >  > customers
 >  >  >  > 
 >  >  >  >    
 >  >  >  > 
 >  >  >  >   19 February 2015 
 >  >  >  > 
 >  >  >  >     
 >  >  >  > 
 >  >  >  >    
 >  >  >  > 
 >  >  >  >   In the UK alone there are over 2 million
people living with
 >  > sight
 >  > loss
 >  >  > making lots of everyday tasks, including banking,
difficult and  >
> frustrating.
 >  >  > Following feedback from a partially sighted
customer, RBS and  >  >
NatWest  > have  > introduced a new accessible debit card.
 >  >  >  > 
 >  >  >  >    
 >  >  >  > 
 >  >  >  >     rnib card      
 >  >  >  > 
 >  >  >  >   The new debit and savings cards feature
braille, a notch to
 >  > help
 >  >  > identify the card and a large print phone number.
 >  >  >  >
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 >  >  >  > 
 >  >  >  >   RBS and NatWest are now launching new
accessible debit and
 >  > savings
 >  >  > cards which have been specifically designed for
blind and partially
>  > sighted  > customers.
 >  >  >  > 
 >  >  >  >    
 >  >  >  > 
 >  >  >  >   To address some of the common problems that
blind and
 >  > partially
 >  > sighted
 >  >  > customers face, the cards will:
 >  >  >  > 
 >  >  >  >   .feature braille markings to identify which
card is savings
 >  > and
 >  > which
 >  >  > card is debit
 >  >  >  > 
 >  >  >  >   .have a notch cut out on the right hand side
of the card to
 >  > help
 >  >  > customers insert their card into ATMs and PIN pads
correctly  >  >
> 
 >  >  >  >   .show telephone numbers where they will be
most clear
 >  >  >  > 
 >  >  >  >   .have large font on the back of the card to
make the phone
 >  > numbers
 >  >  > easier to read
 >  >  >  > 
 >  >  >  >    
 >  >  >  > 
 >  >  >  >   RBS and NatWest's new cards can initially help
their 15,000
 >  > customers
 >  >  > registered as blind or partially sighted. All other
features of the
>  > card  > > remain the same - this card can be used in
ATMs, at point 
> of
sale  > > and for  > > Contactless transactions home or
abroad. The cards
can be  > ordered in  > all  > RBS  > and NatWest branches,
online or
through  > telephone banking and  > will be  > issued  >
within 48 hours.
 >  >  >  > 
 >  >  >  >    
 >  >  >  > 
 >  >  >  >   This is the first banking product designed
especially for
 >  > blind and
 >  >  > partially sighted people. RBS has worked closely
with the Royal  >
> National  > > Institute of the Blind in the development of
this card 
> and
in  > > recognition  > of  > this work the new debit and
savings cards will
be the  > first  > banking  > products  > to be awarded the
new national
quality  > assurance mark  > 'RNIB  > approved'.
 >  >  >  > 
 >  >  >  >    
 >  >  >  > 
 >  >  >  >   Ross McEwan, CEO of RBS, said: "We want to be
recognised as
 > a
 >  > bank
 >  > that
 >  >  > listens to its customers and responds to their
issues. It's really
>  > important  > to me that we make banking as simple and
easy as 
> possible  > for  > all of our  > customers and our
accessible cards 
> are another
step  >  > towards us  > earning back  > the trust of the
public."
 >  >  >  > 
 >  >  >  >    
 >  >  >  > 
 >  >  >  >   Steve Tyler, Head of Solutions, Strategy and
Planning at
 > RNIB
 >  > said,
 >  > "We
 >  >  > are delighted to have worked with RBS on making
savings and debit
>  > cards  > more  > accessible.  The very basic
requirement of 
> identifying
the  > > right  > card and  > quickly determining which way
the card slots
in to a  > > machine or  > payment  > system has been solved
by this
development.
 > Simple as it  > is,  > creating a card  > with tactile
indicators that  >
identify the card type  > as  > well as the way in  > which
it should be  >
used, is an engineering  > challenge,  > particularly to
ensure  > that it
> doesn't disrupt machinery.  We look  > forward to working
with RBS in  
> >
to  > the future and enhancing even  > more of  > the daily
payment
challenges  > that  > blind and partially sighted  >
customers  >
experience."
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