[access-uk] Re: Chip and pin machine, was Accessible bank card
- From: "Barry Hill" <barry.hill3@xxxxxxx>
- To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2015 06:49:43 -0000
Although there are many different designs of chip and pin machines, one
thing you can rely on with chip and pin machines is that there is a pip on
the number 5 and the enter button is always at the bottom right.
Cheers
Barry
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From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Derek Hornby
Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 8:43 PM
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Accessible bank card
Yes, I think sometimes, some people don't like change.
For example why is there chip and signature?
Surely if one is able to use a mobile they should be able to use chip
and PIN
The only problem with chip and PIN is, in my view, the key pad design
can vary.
Derek
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From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
lsmithso@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 8:19 PM
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Accessible bank card
And for balance:
http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/saving/article-2328578/How-safe-new
-contactless-bank-cards.html
http://www.which.co.uk/money/credit-cards-and-loans/guides/contactless
-cards/
http://www.computing.co.uk/ctg/analysis/2327179/contactless-payments-a
re-we-sacrificing-security-for-convenience
Interestingly, you are responsible for the first £50 of losses due to fraud
(is that standard for any kind of card), and contactless terminals ask for a
PIN after every six or so transactions.
Derek Hornby writes: > Hi Barry > You may find this link of
interest:
>
>
http://ask-leo.com/can_my_credit_card_information_be_read_remotely.htm
> l
>
> it's about reading credit cards remotely > > Derek > > > > >
-----Original Message----- > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On > Behalf Of Barry Hill > Sent:
Tuesday, March 03, 2015 5:41 PM > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject:
[access-uk] Re: Accessible bank card > > Ah, thanks for that. Could
someone else use their smart phone to read > your > card if they got close
enough, which isn't difficult with blind > people?
>
> Cheers
>
> Barry
>
>
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> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On >
Behalf Of > lsmithso@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 4:51
PM > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Accessible
bank card > > > NFC = Near Field Communications = The technology used to
read > contactless > smart cards, payment cards etc. I believe that the
card number, expiry > date > etc can be easily read by a smart phone. Its
then a simple step to > read > those out loud using the 'phones TTS. It
looks like contactless > versions of > credit/debit cards are available
from a lot of banks, so this may be > an > alternative to adding Braille
to credit cards.
>
>
> Barry Hill writes: > What's
> an NFC app, please?
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Barry
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On >
Behalf > Of > lsmithso@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015
10:13
> AM >
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Accessible >
bank card > > > > Can the card details be read from a contactless payment
card > by a > NFC app on > a smart phone? Is there an app waiting to be
written > here?
> >
> >
> > goshawk on horseback writes:
> > > just my personal point of view, but I think it would have been a >
far > > better idea to work out ways around what is almost certainly the >
hardest > and > most frustrating thing with bank or credit cards, that of
> accessing > the > details needed to actually use the card, such as card
number, > start > and > expirey dates, and back security number, rather
than prannying > around > with > all these fancy ideas that don't really
do a lot to improve > usability.
> > >
> > > Simon
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Barry Hill
> > > To: angie.matthews@xxxxxxx
> > > Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 8:01 AM
> > > Subject: [access-uk] Accessible bank card
> > >
> > >
> > > RBS and NatWest launch accessible cards for partially
sighted
> and
> blind
> > customers
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> > > 19 February 2015
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> > > In the UK alone there are over 2 million people living with
> sight
> loss
> > making lots of everyday tasks, including banking, difficult and >
frustrating.
> > Following feedback from a partially sighted customer, RBS and >
NatWest > have > introduced a new accessible debit card.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > rnib card
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> > > The new debit and savings cards feature braille, a notch to
> help
> > identify the card and a large print phone number.
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> > > RBS and NatWest are now launching new accessible debit and
> savings
> > cards which have been specifically designed for blind and partially >
sighted > customers.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > To address some of the common problems that blind and
> partially
> sighted
> > customers face, the cards will:
> > >
> > > .feature braille markings to identify which card is savings
> and
> which
> > card is debit
> > >
> > > .have a notch cut out on the right hand side of the card to
> help
> > customers insert their card into ATMs and PIN pads correctly >
>
> > > .show telephone numbers where they will be most clear
> > >
> > > .have large font on the back of the card to make the phone
> numbers
> > easier to read
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > RBS and NatWest's new cards can initially help their 15,000
> customers
> > registered as blind or partially sighted. All other features of the >
card > > remain the same - this card can be used in ATMs, at point of sale
> and for > > Contactless transactions home or abroad. The cards can be
ordered in > all > RBS > and NatWest branches, online or through
telephone banking and > will be > issued > within 48 hours.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > This is the first banking product designed especially for
> blind and
> > partially sighted people. RBS has worked closely with the Royal >
National > > Institute of the Blind in the development of this card and in
> recognition > of > this work the new debit and savings cards will be the
first > banking > products > to be awarded the new national quality
assurance mark > 'RNIB > approved'.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Ross McEwan, CEO of RBS, said: "We want to be recognised as
a
> bank
> that
> > listens to its customers and responds to their issues. It's really >
important > to me that we make banking as simple and easy as possible >
for > all of our > customers and our accessible cards are another step >
towards us > earning back > the trust of the public."
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Steve Tyler, Head of Solutions, Strategy and Planning at
RNIB
> said,
> "We
> > are delighted to have worked with RBS on making savings and debit >
cards > more > accessible. The very basic requirement of identifying the
> right > card and > quickly determining which way the card slots in to a
> machine or > payment > system has been solved by this development.
Simple as it > is, > creating a card > with tactile indicators that
identify the card type > as > well as the way in > which it should be
used, is an engineering > challenge, > particularly to ensure > that it
doesn't disrupt machinery. We look > forward to working with RBS in > to
the future and enhancing even > more of > the daily payment challenges
that > blind and partially sighted > customers > experience."
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> > > Disclaimer
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> > > This information is for media use only and is not a
financial
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