[access-uk] Re: Children of Beslan - Response from the BBC
- From: "George Bell" <george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 00:47:38 +0100
Hey guys. Let's stop here!
We can debate this subject all year if you like, but Auntie
Beeb obviously ain't going to listen to tiddly squat
individual.
As I have already suggested, please take this issue to the
RNIB and see if you can squeeze any testicular bodies there,
That is what they are there for.
I'm sure we shall ALL be interested in hearing the responses
from your approaches to RNIB, especially those who are
members. (And if you are not a member, it might just pay
you to join!)
Her is what the RNIB say at:- (Careful about URL wrap - it
should end in ".hcsp)
http://www.rnib.org.uk/xpedio/groups/public/documents/code/p
ublic_rnib004346.hcsp
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-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ray's Home
Sent: 21 September 2005 21:29
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Children of Beslan - Response from
the BBC
I hear what you say Carol, just that, if the Beeb is going
to say a flat NO to on-air voice-over, then we have to take
part in a debate about alternatives. Distribution of DVDs
or videos hadn't struck me as an alternative, and there
would be a time lag, so we could hardly join in popular
discussion of programmes that are hot public issues. I'd
have thought that at the very least we should be looking to
the voice sub-channel, and/or the internet, for starters.
I do agree though, that the Beeb's, or independent
production companies responses thus far are grievously
inadequate.
Ray
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Carol Pearson"
Well, Ray, I can only speak for myself and maybe Mike. We
both want to see that programme, with some voiceover, even
shown again or sent out to those who ask in some useable
format.
How they do it is their problem. We just have the right to
see it like everyone else!
--
Carol
carol.pearson@xxxxxxxxxxxx
-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ray's Home
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 8:20 PM
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Children of Beslan - Response from
the BBC
Well Barry, Carol and others, I've been following this
thread but I am sort of losing the thread too! What is it
that is being demanded to meet our needs, re. subtitling of
programmes? Are we demanding voice-over always be used?
Or, maybe, an alternate transmission with voice over for
those like us - and others - who cannot follow the very fast
changing subtitles? Or, again, maybe that the
audio-description channel be used for this purpose? (Even
though not gvery many yet have access via the Netgem and
other devices.
To me it speaks volumes that the deaf community are, or seem
to be, far more readily accomodated than we are. Makes me
think that blindness and its needs are a real no no for
those who, elegedly, have such good aesthetic sensabilities.
You would have thought the Beeb, public service broadcasting
and all that, would at least make a real effort to do
something along the lines I've mentioned above. Ray
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Dj Paddy"
|I feel exactly the same.
|
| Alot of time when it comes to television and media like it
such as
| DVD/VHS I genuinly don't get bent out of shape.
|
| But the blazay responses have really got me. Especially
from a
| company who it's the law to fund! Or at least help with!
|
| Dj Paddy
| ----- Original Message -----
| From: "Carol Pearson"
|
| > We appreciate it, Ian.
| >
| > All we want is to see that programme with some speech
over . . ..
| >
| > I don't want to settle until I get that, even if they
have to do it
| > now for a group of us!
| >
| >
| > --
| > Carol
| > carol.pearson@xxxxxxxxxxxx
| >
| >
| >
| > -----Original Message-----
| > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
| > Behalf Of Ian Macrae
| >
| >
| > Hi Carol,
| >
| > The response you received is completely inadequate and
totally
| > inappropriate in terms of its content and its language.
I'm pleased
| > to note it came from en employee of capita and not
someone from the
| > Beeb directly. However, since they represent BBC views,
you can be
| > certain my dander is now up and I'll be pursuing this
relentlessly.
| > I'll keep the list posted as to what happens.
| >
| > Cheers now.
| >
| > Ian
| >
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