[access-uk] Re: Changes in Braille
- From: "Jackie Brown" <jackieannbrown62@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2015 15:25:13 -0000
Hi George
You are probably right, but my heart says leave it alone! (smile).
Kind regards,
Jackie Brown
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-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
George Bell
Sent: 27 March 2015 15:10
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Changes in Braille
Hi Jackie,
I very much doubt you will have any problems reading literary material, and
will quickly settle in to it.
George
-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Jackie Brown
Sent: 27 March 2015 13:42
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Changes in Braille
I'm not opposed to capitalisation, I think it is important for Braille
readers to identify the differences in written language. I will be
interested to read some of these changes in literature when they come into
effect. I guess whether I like it or not it's happening anyway! (smile)
Kind regards,
Jackie Brown
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-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Clive.Lever@xxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: 27 March 2015 13:30
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Changes in Braille
Hi Derek,
I feel the answer to point two is that it'll be easier to share books across
borders. It'll be a good thing in the long term if it means that more books,
or files for producing them, can be shared more widely and read more easily
throughout the English-speaking world.
As to point three, if you read capitalisation you'll more likely be able to
write it properly, and so your written communications will be more
presentable in what is, after all, a sighted world. The problem is that only
64 symbols to play with, you end up with a complicated system of dot sixes
in different places to imply that a whole passage is capitalised, or a whole
passage has initial caps, or a word is entirely capitalised, or a word has
it's first letter written in upper case. This is what I meant by the risk of
letters drowning in a sea of additional braille symbols. That's why I wrote
all that random jibberish around the word 'Best', in my previous message. I
won't do it again.
Best,
Clive
-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
David Griffith
Sent: 27 March 2015 13:11
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Changes in Braille
I have taken the liberty of changing the subject line as the discussion
below whilst important now has little to do with RNIB Branding.
David Griffith
On 27/03/2015 12:49, Derek Hornby wrote:
> Hi Dave
> The problem I have with the Braille changes are:
>
> 1. The changes were not put to the vote.
> So change was forced on us, or imposed on us.
>
> 2. Just because one side of the world does something doesn't mean the
> whole world must do same. So I do not see why each country
> can not make it's own rules abot braille, given that
> each country makes its own rules about terminology.
>
> 3. Braille, is not print, so I fail to understand why we need to
> show uppercase in braille.
> And why do we need to show boldface in braille!
>
> 4. RNIB has akready started cut backs in braille production for
> example New Beacon (NB) is now only online, same is true for
> Insight.
>
> Regards, Derek
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Dave Sheridan
> Sent: Friday, March 27, 2015 12:14 PM
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Off-topic - RNIB Branding
>
> Whilst I agree fundamentally with the issue of terminology the changes
> being made to Braille and the rules that come with this are a
> different matter and I have to disagree with you Jackie and Derek on
> this. On the terminology matter, with sight loss covers much more
> people than those who need the services of RNIB from my perspective.
>
> Dave
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On 27 Mar 2015, at 11:35, Jackie Brown <jackieannbrown62@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>> Hi Derek
>>
>> Couldn't agree with you more. Do people interfere with how
> handwriting is
>> done? I don't mind embracing change, but I personally don't think
> it is
>> necessary.
>>
>> Oh dear, never mind, perhaps I'm just getting too old and too
> cynical to
>> bother any more! (smile).
>>
>> Kind regards,
>>
>> Jackie Brown
>> Emails: thebrownsplace@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Jackieannbrown62@xxxxxxxxx
>> jackie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of
>> Derek Hornby
>> Sent: 27 March 2015 11:21
>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Off-topic - RNIB Branding
>>
>> Hi Jac kie
>> And now it's back to school to learn the new Braille rules!
>> If not broken why do they try to fix it!
>>
>> Derek
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of
>> Jackie Brown
>> Sent: Friday, March 27, 2015 10:50 AM
>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Off-topic - RNIB Branding
>>
>> Hi Clive
>>
>>
>>
>> There is some rebranding going on as RNIB now has this RNIB Approved
> feature
>> as well.
>>
>>
>>
>> Kind regards,
>>
>>
>>
>> Jackie Brown
>>
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>>
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>>
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>>
>>
>>
>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of
>> Clive.Lever@xxxxxxxxxxx
>> Sent: 27 March 2015 10:34
>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [access-uk] Off-topic - RNIB Branding
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm not expecting a discussion here, but please can anyone tell me
> off list
>> when the strap-line on RNIB's web pages changed from:
>>
>> "Supporting Blind and Partially-Sighted People" to:
>>
>> "Supporting People with Sight Loss". The supplementary question is:
>>
>> Why?
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Clive
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Clive Lever
>>
>> Diversity and Equality Officer
>>
>> Kent County Council
>>
>>
>>
>> Office: 03000 416388
>>
>> Email: clive.lever@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Kent County Council
>>
>> Room G37
>>
>> Sessions House
>>
>> Maidstone, Kent.
>>
>> ME14 1XQ
>>
>>
>>
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