[access-uk] Re: Can Someone Help?

  • From: "Graham Page" <gpage@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 12:45:58 +0100

hi Theresa. the thing about 4 radio buttons at the top was my mistake and I 
didn't realise there were more sections to fill in either.  I just got to the 
"thank you for filling the background" bit and assumed it stopped there.

maybe a bit silly of me but save the thank you until the end I say!

cheers

Graham
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Theresa Hodge 
  To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 12:30 PM
  Subject: [access-uk] Re: Can Someone Help?


  Hi Graham

  Thanks for looking at this for me.  I'm responding to each e-mail separately 
to make sure I cover all the points raised - so I'll comment on what I haven't 
already fed back on.

  Re the part that asks about focus groups / interviews, there aren't four 
buttons - there's two, but you may be finding that JAWS reads "Radio button 
yes", "Yes", "Radio Button No" "No".  So it's actually reading the Yes and No 
twice.  The response I've been given to this is something to do with different 
screenreaders needing code behind the labels so JAWS seems to be reading the 
code as well.  I'll find the exact response when I look at my work e-mail, and 
if there's any other comments I'll feed them back.

  I agree with you about the prompts being mixed up with the labels in certain 
places - I think that this has been transferred exactly as it appears on paper 
but consideration hasn't been given to how this appears to a VI person.  Also, 
what's the point in being told that a field is optional (i.e. e-mail) after 
you've probably already filled it in?

  Re the section on disability, I find that if you're just tabbing round the 
screen it's not always clear which field you're in (i.e. you tab to the 
Definition button, then the next tab gets you to "As defined below Yes radio 
button not checked".  The button says "Definition" where it should actually say 
"Disability", and I think this should be a link rather than a button because it 
would be easier to find if you wanted to go back to it.

       






  Theresa Hodge
  theresa.hodge@xxxxxxxxx


    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Graham Page 
    To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 11:14 AM
    Subject: [access-uk] Re: Can Someone Help?


    hi theresa.

    yes I know what you mean about problems.  just having a brief look the part 
that asks if you would be willing to take part in a survey only requires one 
answer, yes or no  but has 4 radio buttons and I think this is not just purely 
an accessibility issue but a usability one.  Further down the page, the user is 
asked for genda.  the prompt to select 1 gets mixed up with the label for the 
next question.  This is probably due to poor HTML coding.

    lower down you are asked if you consider yourself to have a disability.  
the word disability is a button and clicking on it gives you a definition of 
disability.  this is confusing maybe from an access point of view but wrong 
from a users' point of view.  you are being asked if you consider yourself to 
have a disability, not whether you have a disability according to what the 
university chooses to define as disability so there is really no need for that 
button.

    the part about ethnicity seems to work quite well as does the rest of the 
form though maybe a bit of attention could be paid to labels so that as the 
user tabs through the form with a screenreader, prompts are spoken in relevant 
cases.

    Lastly, this form has a number of sections.  the top heading is Staff 
Questionaire
    there are then sub headings of Background Information, 
    Contact Information, Demoghraphic Information and Nationality and Ethnicity 
information.

    Propper HTML heading tags should be used to make the page more navigable.  
Staff information should have a heading 1 tag and the other headings should be 
at level 2.

    I hope this is of some help.

    Regards

    Graham


      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Theresa Hodge 
      To: Access UK Mailing List 
      Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 10:45 AM
      Subject: [access-uk] Can Someone Help?


      Hi All

      I need some help from people who use a couple of different screenreaders 
...

      I am involved in a project where a questionnaire is being put on a 
website for staff and students of a university to complete about their 
experiences as a disabled person working for / studying at the university.  
I've now used a couple of different online questionnaire systems and have views 
on both.

      I wonder if some people could look at this (please don't spend much time, 
just a quick overview) and give me some comments on how accessible it is?  The 
link is http://esda.awardspace.com/staff.htm/

      In my opinion, the online version has been developed to look very much 
like the paper version - but I'm not sure it works online.  I'll reserve any 
further comments until I have some feedback!!

      Anyway, see what you think ...



       Theresa Hodge
      theresa.hodge@xxxxxxxxx




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